<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Dig Me Out]]></title><description><![CDATA[Every album tells a story. Most never get heard. We dig them out with podcasts exploring heavy 70s, 80s metal, 90s alternative, and 00s rock—forgotten masterpieces, lost classics, and legends that still have something to say.]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y6ht!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4ab29a97-2392-4e90-bf1a-f9f1dd142a9e_256x256.png</url><title>Dig Me Out</title><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 23:43:36 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[digmeout@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[digmeout@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[digmeout@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[digmeout@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[Holland’s Little Monsters: The Chicago Metal Album That Got Lost Between Scenes]]></title><description><![CDATA[Little Monsters hid power-pop instincts beneath its hard-rock armor.]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/hollands-little-monsters-the-chicago</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/hollands-little-monsters-the-chicago</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2026 14:34:03 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/215825823/73703b320fb2bc0670d3f62701b4c19a.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>What happens when a major-label metal band is too melodic for the underground and too early for the hair-metal boom?</strong></p><p>In 1985, the center of gravity for American hard rock was pulling hard toward Los Angeles. The visual language was getting louder, the choruses were getting bigger, and labels were figuring out how to sell a band in a single MTV clip. But <a href="https://www.discogs.com/artist/1038693-Holland-14">Holland</a> came from Chicago, and <em>Little Monsters </em>sounds like it.</p><p>The album arrived on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Records">Atlantic Records</a>, a genuine major-label bet on singer <a href="https://www.discogs.com/artist/495638-Tom-Holland-6">Tom Holland</a> and guitarist <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Angelo_Batio">Michael Angelo Batio</a>, years before Batio became synonymous with full-speed technical guitar spectacle and the famously multi-necked instruments of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitro_(American_band)">Nitro</a>. That contrast is the first surprise. <em>Little Monsters</em> has plenty of shred, but it is not built to make the guitarist the entire event.</p><p>Instead, this is a compact, 34-minute album of tight songs, chunky guitars, sharp lead work, and a vocal presence that can carry melody without sanding down the record&#8217;s hard-rock edges. The songs rarely stretch past four minutes. No grand power ballad arrives to halt the momentum. Holland gets in, lands the hook or riff, gives Batio room to burn, then gets out before the whole thing turns into a clinic.</p><p>That economy makes the album feel less like a leftover from the Sunset Strip and more like an alternate branch of mid-&#8217;80s rock. You can hear the pressure of metal in the guitars, but beneath it is an instinct for power pop, Midwestern melody, and songs that want to do more than provide a runway for solos.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!p_ZF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66ec882a-bbc2-4609-b09e-b5599dd184b7_447x447.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!p_ZF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66ec882a-bbc2-4609-b09e-b5599dd184b7_447x447.jpeg 424w, 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Strip away the distorted guitar and the flashy leads, and the core has a melodic discipline closer to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheap_Trick">Cheap Trick</a> than to the era&#8217;s more interchangeable hard-rock acts. That does not make Holland a power-pop band in leather jackets. It means the band understood that a memorable riff only gets you so far without a verse and chorus that can stand on their own.</p><p>&#8220;Middle of a Dream&#8221; is where that balancing act becomes especially clear. Its acoustic-picked opening creates a spacious, almost 12-string feel before the arrangement pivots into heavier chords. Rather than treating soft and heavy as opposite poles, the song lets them work together. The verses breathe. The chorus tightens the screws. It is a small move, but it separates Holland from bands that treated dynamics as simply slowing down for the ballad.</p><p>&#8220;Gotta Run&#8221; works because it occupies the neglected middle ground. It is not a full-speed rocker, and it is not a lighter-waving power ballad. It is moody, mid-tempo, and built on vocal melody, layered guitars, and an arrangement that trusts the band to create tension without simply turning every dial upward.</p><p>Then there is &#8220;Keep It to Yourself,&#8221; another example of Holland&#8217;s underlying pop sense. The verse melody is strong enough to suggest what this band could have become with another album or two, especially as the late-&#8217;80s hard-rock market began demanding larger, cleaner, more immediate choruses.</p><p>This is where the record earns its place in the Dig Me Out universe. It is not a perfect lost classic. It is a record with an identifiable personality, one that keeps surfacing when Holland leans into songwriting rather than genre posture.</p><p><strong>If you have a record that never got its rightful second listen, <a href="https://airtable.com/app356TrsQzwKOddY/pagITslz557viDn90/form">put it in front of the community</a>. The poll is how these overlooked albums get pulled back into the conversation.</strong></p><h2><strong>Batio shreds, but the songs survive</strong></h2><p><strong>Michael Angelo Batio is everywhere on this album, yet he rarely overwhelms it.</strong></p><p>That is not a small accomplishment. Batio&#8217;s later reputation is built on jaw-dropping technique, speed, ambidextrous playing, and visual excess. On <em>Little Monsters</em>, his guitar work is clearly the work of a player with serious technical firepower, but the solos are usually deployed like solos should be: brief bursts of escalation inside songs that already have a reason to exist.</p><p>The comparison that kept returning for us was <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinnie_Vincent_Invasion">Vinnie Vincent Invasion</a>. Not because Holland sounds exactly like Vinnie Vincent&#8217;s band, but because both projects can feel like pop-minded songwriting covered in a metallic finish, with virtuoso guitar playing pushed well forward in the mix. The key difference is restraint. Holland gives Batio room, but the songs do not get swallowed by the demonstration.</p><p>&#8220;High Life&#8221; gives him one of the album&#8217;s more obvious opportunities to cut loose, built around a descending hard-rock riff that recalls the kind of muscular metal heard from bands such as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malice_(American_band)">Malice</a>. &#8220;Basics of the Bullet&#8221; brings a shuffle feel and shouted backing vocals into the mix, placing Batio&#8217;s sharper lines against a more rhythmic, bar-band-ready foundation.</p><p>There is a revealing live clip of &#8220;High Life&#8221; in the band&#8217;s afterlife online: the song itself runs with album-like efficiency, then the spotlight shifts into a much longer guitar showcase. That split may explain the record&#8217;s identity. In the studio, the band and producer <a href="https://www.discogs.com/artist/217739-Max-Carl">Max Carl</a> appear to have kept the excess contained. Onstage, Batio could take the leash off.</p><p>It was the right instinct for the album. If <em>Little Monsters</em> had become a full-time shred exercise, its strongest melodies would have disappeared under the fretboard fireworks.</p><h2><strong>One movie scene kept it alive</strong></h2><p><strong>Holland&#8217;s most-streamed song may be familiar to people who never knew the band&#8217;s name.</strong></p><p>&#8220;Wake Up the Neighborhood&#8221; became attached to the 1985 dance-comedy film <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls_Just_Want_to_Have_Fun_(film)">Girls Just Want to Have Fun</a></em>, featuring <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Hunt">Helen Hunt</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Jessica_Parker">Sarah Jessica Parker</a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannen_Doherty">Shannen Doherty</a>. In the film, the song scores a classic &#8217;80s disruption: young characters bring a loud rock band&#8217;s energy into a more formal setting, while adults look on in stunned disapproval.</p><p>That placement explains why the track has a streaming footprint disproportionate to Holland&#8217;s broader cultural visibility. It was a soundtrack moment, a memory trigger, and a song many listeners absorbed without tracing it back to <em>Little Monsters</em>.</p><p>It is also a useful illustration of the record&#8217;s divide. &#8220;Wake Up the Neighborhood&#8221; is immediate, driving, and built for a movie scene. It has the kind of generic party-rock utility a soundtrack supervisor wants. But it does not reveal the full story of what makes Holland distinctive. It is more representative of the album&#8217;s standard hard-rock side than the more curious melodic material on &#8220;Lovin&#8217; on Time,&#8221; &#8220;Middle of a Dream,&#8221; &#8220;Gotta Run,&#8221; or &#8220;Keep It to Yourself.&#8221;</p><p>The track works. It is fun. But if that is the only Holland song you know, you have missed the part of the record that suggests a band with a more individual path available to it.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HXjY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffdec5136-e50a-4198-afce-fe891b5d352a_830x830.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HXjY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffdec5136-e50a-4198-afce-fe891b5d352a_830x830.jpeg 424w, 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The question is why the timing never gave that talent a second chance.</strong></p><p>By the middle of the decade, hard rock was increasingly a regional and visual business. Los Angeles had the clubs, labels, managers, industry attention, and constant proximity that could turn a local band into a national story. Chicago had a different set of strengths: musicianship, rock history, and a power-pop sensibility that sits naturally beside the harder material on <em>Little Monsters</em>.</p><p>That Midwestern identity may be precisely what makes the album interesting now. Holland did not fully resemble the emerging glam-metal template, but it also was not part of the heavier underground movements building elsewhere. The band sounds like it was caught in the transition, a few years too early for the huge, radio-focused hooks that would soon dominate the market.</p><p>It is tempting to imagine the next record. A 1987 or 1988 Holland album, with the songwriting strengths sharpened and the choruses pushed further forward, might have found a larger audience. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enuff_Z%27Nuff">Enuff Z&#8217;Nuff</a>, another Chicago-area act, would eventually find traction by making melodic hooks and Beatlesque instincts impossible to ignore. Holland had pieces of that same equation, even if <em>Little Monsters</em> never quite locks every one of them into place.</p><p>The band&#8217;s short life makes the album feel unfinished in a compelling way. It is not simply an artifact of what happened. It is an artifact of what might have happened if the scene, the label, and the songwriting had aligned at the right moment.</p><h2><strong>The verdict is in the edit</strong></h2><p><strong>There is a great EP trapped inside this good album.</strong></p><p><em>Little Monsters</em> is easy to enjoy. It is well played, cleanly produced, and full of evidence that Holland had real capabilities. Tom Holland can sing. Michael Angelo Batio can certainly play. The rhythm section keeps the material moving. The album never becomes a slog.</p><p>But the gap between the strongest songs and the more formula-driven tracks is hard to ignore. When Holland leans into melody, texture, and the band&#8217;s Midwestern personality, the album sounds distinct. When it leans toward conventional hard-rock mechanics, the songs can begin to blur into material that could have come from a dozen other mid-&#8217;80s bands.</p><p>&#8220;Lovin&#8217; on Time,&#8221; &#8220;Middle of a Dream,&#8221; &#8220;Borderline,&#8221; &#8220;Sacrifice,&#8221; &#8220;Gotta Run,&#8221; and &#8220;Keep It to Yourself&#8221; form a compelling alternate version of <em>Little Monsters</em>. That version is leaner, stranger, more melodic, and more likely to make you wonder why Holland did not get a longer run.</p><p>Was the album too early for the hooks it needed? Did Atlantic fail to find the right lane for a Chicago hard-rock band in a Los Angeles moment? Or did the band simply need one more record to turn its best ideas into a complete statement?</p><p>Listen to the full episode for our final rating, then tell us where you land. Is <em>Little Monsters</em> a lost album, a better EP, or a record that deserved a second swing at the late-&#8217;80s hard-rock boom?</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Upgrade&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">This post has bonus video version of the podcast for paid subscribers. Upgrade to get full access.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Upgrade"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2><strong>Episode Highlights</strong></h2><ul><li><p>00:44: The community poll, how Holland emerged from a tie with L.A. Guns</p></li><li><p>01:40: The short, elusive history of Holland and the Chicago connection</p></li><li><p>02:22: Michael Angelo Batio before Nitro, technical guitar with restraint</p></li><li><p>02:37: &#8220;Wake Up the Neighborhood,&#8221; <em>Girls Just Want to Have Fun</em>, and Holland&#8217;s unexpected soundtrack legacy</p></li><li><p>03:09: &#8220;High Life,&#8221; &#8220;Sacrifice,&#8221; and the record&#8217;s shifting hard-rock influences</p></li><li><p>03:45: &#8220;I Want It,&#8221; the closer that could have been a bigger single</p></li><li><p>04:04: Where the record loses focus, and why the choruses do not always land</p></li><li><p>04:50: The final assessment, a better EP hiding inside a full-length album</p></li><li><p>05:13: Chicago versus Los Angeles, and the career Holland never got to build</p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The 70s Ballot: Rose Tattoo, Wishbone Ash, Starz, and a Lost AOR Gem]]></title><description><![CDATA[The overlooked records are waiting. You decide which one gets pulled into the light.]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/the-70s-ballot-rose-tattoo-wishbone</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/the-70s-ballot-rose-tattoo-wishbone</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2026 18:54:03 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6-VS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36146f29-4f1f-4449-9537-61c49e8d9329_1254x1254.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 1970s are supposed to be settled history by now: the great classic-rock monuments, the platinum albums, the bands whose logos have outlived record stores, radio formats, and probably several empires.</p><p>But this ballot tells a different story.</p><p>There&#8217;s Wishbone Ash&#8217;s Argus, a 1972 record whose twin-guitar harmonies quietly helped lay groundwork for the metal bands that would dominate the next decade. There&#8217;s Rose Tattoo&#8217;s self-titled 1978 debut, all sweat, slide guitar, and Australian pub-rock danger&#8212;the kind of raw, lived-in hard rock that would echo loudly in Guns N&#8217; Roses. There&#8217;s Starz&#8217;s Violation, a band with KISS-world connections, Jack Douglas behind the board, and every reason to be bigger than they were. And then there&#8217;s 1994:&#8217;s self-titled album, a melodic hard-rock record from 1978 that feels almost unnervingly like it arrived from the mid-&#8217;80s ahead of schedule.</p><p>That is the real pleasure of digging into the decade: not replaying the consensus, but finding the forks in the road. These are four records from four different versions of the &#8217;70s&#8212;the prog-to-metal bridge, the barroom hard-rock lifers, the almost-made-it arena contenders, and the band that seemed to hear the future before the rest of the industry caught up.</p><p>One of them will become the next full Dig Me Out episode: the story behind the band, the record&#8217;s place in the larger rock map, our review, host ratings, and the community verdict.</p><h2><strong>The September 70s ballot</strong></h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6-VS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36146f29-4f1f-4449-9537-61c49e8d9329_1254x1254.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6-VS!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36146f29-4f1f-4449-9537-61c49e8d9329_1254x1254.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6-VS!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36146f29-4f1f-4449-9537-61c49e8d9329_1254x1254.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6-VS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36146f29-4f1f-4449-9537-61c49e8d9329_1254x1254.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6-VS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36146f29-4f1f-4449-9537-61c49e8d9329_1254x1254.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6-VS!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36146f29-4f1f-4449-9537-61c49e8d9329_1254x1254.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6-VS!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36146f29-4f1f-4449-9537-61c49e8d9329_1254x1254.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6-VS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36146f29-4f1f-4449-9537-61c49e8d9329_1254x1254.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6-VS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36146f29-4f1f-4449-9537-61c49e8d9329_1254x1254.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/1HSDHIA9TLA?si=0anStR0UO1J0AvHZ">Rose Tattoo &#8212; </a></strong><em><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/1HSDHIA9TLA?si=0anStR0UO1J0AvHZ">Rose Tattoo</a></strong></em><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/1HSDHIA9TLA?si=0anStR0UO1J0AvHZ"> (1978)</a></strong></h3><p><strong>Suggested by Gavin Reid</strong></p><p>Before there was Guns N&#8217; Roses, there was Rose Tattoo: hard-living, no-frills Australian rock &#8217;n&#8217; roll with a fistful of slide guitar and zero interest in polishing the dirt off its boots.</p><p>Gavin calls them a cornerstone of Australian rock and points straight to &#8220;Nice Boys,&#8221; the song that helped put the &#8220;Rose&#8221; in Guns N&#8217; Roses. If you want to hear a band whose influence runs from the pub-rock circuit to Sunset Strip, this is the record with the bootprints.</p><h3><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/MoeIA7h_L-Q?si=W3jpzMIj45jjtTV1">1994: &#8212; </a></strong><em><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/MoeIA7h_L-Q?si=W3jpzMIj45jjtTV1">1994:</a></strong></em><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/MoeIA7h_L-Q?si=W3jpzMIj45jjtTV1"> (1978)</a></strong></h3><p><strong>Suggested by Keith P. Miller</strong></p><p>A band named 1994: releasing a record in 1978 that sounds like it showed up five or six years early? That is already the kind of timeline glitch Dig Me Out was made to investigate.</p><p>Keith hears big hooks, polished songwriting, arena-ready choruses, and a melodic hard-rock/AOR sound that would have made far more commercial sense in the mid-&#8217;80s. At the center is Karen Lawrence: powerful, soulful, and apparently overdue for a serious reappraisal. Start with &#8220;Once Again,&#8221; then ask yourself how this one didn&#8217;t become a staple.</p><h3><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/i7Lq6dIJFFg?si=OiCGea7z8b7F6swz">Starz &#8212; </a></strong><em><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/i7Lq6dIJFFg?si=OiCGea7z8b7F6swz">Violation</a></strong></em><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/i7Lq6dIJFFg?si=OiCGea7z8b7F6swz"> (1977)</a></strong></h3><p><strong>Suggested by jdziak</strong></p><p>This one has the kind of r&#233;sum&#233; that should have made it impossible to miss.</p><p>Bill Aucoin&#8212;KISS&#8217;s manager&#8212;was behind Starz. They toured with KISS. Guitarist Richie Ranno played on Gene Simmons&#8217; solo record. Jack Douglas produced <em>Violation</em>. And yet, as the nomination puts it, they still got totally buried.</p><p>So: was <em>Violation</em> a lost hard-rock contender that got swallowed by the sheer volume of late-&#8217;70s rock releases? Or is it a perfect example of why connections, touring slots, and big-name production still can&#8217;t guarantee a lasting place in the story? Let&#8217;s put it on the table.</p><h3><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/xagZWGEtI2A?si=9_Wg_29SwkxuuDRm">Wishbone Ash &#8212; </a></strong><em><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/xagZWGEtI2A?si=9_Wg_29SwkxuuDRm">Argus</a></strong></em><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/xagZWGEtI2A?si=9_Wg_29SwkxuuDRm"> (1972)</a></strong></h3><p><strong>Suggested by Chip</strong></p><p>Prog? Folk rock? Hard rock? <em>Argus</em> lives in the fertile collision zone where those labels stop being useful and the guitars take over.</p><p>Chip&#8217;s nomination gets right to the point: Wishbone Ash&#8217;s twin-guitar approach would become a major part of the language for bands like Judas Priest and Iron Maiden. Steve Harris has specifically pointed fans toward <em>Argus</em> to understand Maiden&#8217;s early harmony-guitar sound. There is even the wonderfully strange side note that its cover may have helped inspire Darth Vader&#8217;s design.</p><p>If this is one of the records that helped teach heavy metal how two guitars could speak at once, it deserves our attention.</p><div class="poll-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:1215583}" data-component-name="PollToDOM"></div><h2></h2>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why Did America Miss Fields of the Nephilim’s Elizium?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Pink Floyd-scale production, occult grandeur, and goth rock with nowhere else to go.]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/why-did-america-miss-fields-of-the</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/why-did-america-miss-fields-of-the</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 13:04:16 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/214643797/81c0ce7e769e2b3e61a33d2b497fe9a1.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><a href="http://www.dmounion.com">Board of Directors member</a>, Keith Tasker,  brought us <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fields_of_the_Nephilim">Fields of the Nephilim</a>, and specifically their 1990 album <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizium">Elizium</a>, for his second Dig Me Out visit of the year. This was a record new to both of us, a strange and beautiful collision of goth rock, progressive atmosphere, Spaghetti Western imagery, mysticism, and late-period Pink Floyd-scale production. It is also exactly the kind of album that makes the whole Dig Me Out exercise worthwhile: a record that looks forbidding from the outside, then pulls you into its own weather system.</em><br><em>Want to bring YOUR favorite lost album to the table? <a href="https://airtable.com/app356TrsQzwKOddY/pagITslz557viDn90/form">Suggest it for a future episode</a> or community poll.</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wPPI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fc7d9e8-8585-4934-835a-998f0abcc401_1672x941.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>What if gothic rock&#8217;s grandest record arrived just arrived at the wrong time?</p><p>Released on September 24, 1990, <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizium">Elizium</a></em> was the third studio album from English goth-rock institution <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fields_of_the_Nephilim">Fields of the Nephilim</a>. It came out through <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beggars_Banquet_Records">Beggars Banquet</a>, was co-produced by the band and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Jackson_(record_producer)">Andy Jackson</a>, and landed at the exact moment popular rock was about to be rewritten. Within a year, the old map would be burned up by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_(band)">Nirvana</a>, grunge, alternative radio, and a much different idea of what darkness in rock music could sound like.</p><p>But <em>Elizium</em> lives in the gap before all that. It belongs to a 1990 when a band could still make a long, deeply theatrical record that asks for patience, headphones, darkness, and maybe a country road after midnight.</p><h2><strong>The Darkest Record Without Punishment</strong></h2><p><strong>The surprise is how inviting this album is.</strong></p><p>The cover, the name, and titles like &#8220;(Dead But Dreaming),&#8221; &#8220;Submission,&#8221; and &#8220;Sumerland (What Dreams May Come)&#8221; announce something ominous. Before hearing a note, we expected any number of directions: black metal, industrial, doom, perhaps some kind of impenetrable occult-rock exercise.</p><p>Instead, <em>Elizium</em> comes in with atmosphere, melody, dynamics, and an almost disarming beauty. The album&#8217;s darkness is never merely punitive. It does not bludgeon you, nor does it rely on extreme vocals or a wall of distortion to create dread. It pulls you closer.</p><p>That difference matters. The record&#8217;s most powerful quality is its ability to feel foreboding while remaining accessible. There are reverbed guitars, deep bass, synth haze, chant-like passages, whispered textures, and a voice that seems to rise from somewhere below the floorboards. Yet the songs are built around rhythms and melodies sturdy enough to keep us from getting lost in the smoke.</p><p>At the center is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_McCoy">Carl McCoy</a>, whose low, gravelly vocal brings the record&#8217;s mystery into focus. His performance is more than gothic crooning. He whispers, rasps, declaims, recedes, and periodically makes spoken passages feel genuinely weighty instead of theatrical for its own sake. Strip that voice away, and the music might still be beautiful. But it would not carry the same sense of danger.</p><p>The band&#8217;s reputation for dust-coated Spaghetti Western imagery, occult symbolism, Biblical reference points, and old-world mysticism can make them seem like an acquired taste. On <em>Elizium</em>, though, the imagery becomes part of the music&#8217;s physical space. You do not need a glossary of Sumerian mythology to feel what it is doing.</p><p>You only need to be willing to let it take over the room.</p><h2><strong>Goth Rock Went Cinematic</strong></h2><p><strong>This album is less a collection of songs than a place to enter.</strong></p><p>The official track list is just eight pieces, but <em>Elizium</em> is sequenced like one long, three-act experience: &#8220;(Dead But Dreaming),&#8221; &#8220;For Her Light,&#8221; &#8220;At the Gates of Silent Memory,&#8221; &#8220;(Paradise Regained),&#8221; &#8220;Submission,&#8221; &#8220;Sumerland (What Dreams May Come),&#8221; &#8220;Wail of Sumer,&#8221; and &#8220;And There Will Your Heart Be Also.&#8221; </p><p>The first stretch establishes the terrain. &#8220;(Dead But Dreaming)&#8221; is a brief threshold, an ambient opening scene rather than a conventional song. Then &#8220;For Her Light&#8221; arrives with a bracing, almost unexpectedly direct momentum. There are hints of 1980s-era <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_(band)">Rush</a> in the reverbed guitar attack and bass movement, even as McCoy&#8217;s voice immediately puts the music somewhere much darker.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EjeW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8e3f84c2-632c-4d91-b017-d661ac881a48_1200x1200.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EjeW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8e3f84c2-632c-4d91-b017-d661ac881a48_1200x1200.jpeg 424w, 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>From there, <em>Elizium</em> expands rather than repeats. &#8220;At the Gates of Silent Memory&#8221; pushes the record into a more patient and immersive mode, and &#8220;(Paradise Regained)&#8221; functions like another passageway. The band is not chasing choruses or radio hooks. They are building a sequence of rooms.</p><p>That is why calling it a full-album listen is not snobbery. It is practical listening advice. Starting at track four is a little like walking into a film halfway through and wondering why everyone is speaking in symbols. The record&#8217;s drama comes from accumulation: guitar tones bleeding into keyboard tones, drums pushing forward then disappearing into atmosphere, phrases returning in altered form.</p><p>The second half makes that structure even clearer. &#8220;Sumerland (What Dreams May Come)&#8221; runs more than 11 minutes, but it earns the length by shifting internal gears. There is a riff that evokes <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagles_(band)">Eagles</a>&#8217; &#8220;Life in the Fast Lane&#8221; if it had been dragged through a fog machine and abandoned at the edge of an ancient temple. Then the song opens into something bigger, including a guitar solo with a flash of classic 1980s hard-rock excess.</p><p>That is the appeal of Fields of the Nephilim. They can make the sacred and the ridiculous touch shoulders without collapsing the mood.</p><h2><strong>The Pink Floyd Connection Is Real</strong></h2><p><strong>The production is not merely &#8220;very 1990.&#8221; It is the sound of a band using that era&#8217;s tools to create a permanent fog.</strong></p><p><em>Elizium</em> was co-produced and engineered by Andy Jackson, whose long association with <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Floyd">Pink Floyd</a> explains some of the record&#8217;s scale, depth, and carefully layered ambiguity. Jackson&#8217;s work gives the album a strange physical character. A sustained sound might be guitar, synthesizer, or an <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBow">EBow</a>, the electromagnetic device that creates a bowed, sustained guitar effect. Sometimes it is hard to tell, and that is precisely the point. </p><p>The album was recorded at Park Gate Studios in Battle, with additional recording and mixing at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astoria_(recording_studio)">Astoria</a>, David Gilmour&#8217;s houseboat studio at Hampton Court. That detail makes sense the minute you hear the record. <em>Elizium</em> is not attempting to mimic Pink Floyd, but it shares a willingness to make studio technique part of the storytelling. <a href="https://www.discogs.com/release/805810-Fields-Of-The-Nephilim-Elizium">discogs</a></p><p>The reverb, delay, and wide-open spaces initially read as a very specific 1990 production fingerprint. On a first spin, parts can feel thin or washed out, especially if you are listening casually or at low volume. Turn it up, though, and the mix begins to reveal why it was constructed this way. The effects are not decoration. They are the atmosphere itself.</p><p>A more forceful remaster might make the entry point easier. At the same time, drying this album out or trying to make it overly punchy would risk ruining its spell. <em>Elizium</em> needs its blur. It needs the sense that the band is playing somewhere just out of view.</p><p>It is a record that rewards an actual listening environment: speakers with some air around them, headphones that can handle the low end, or a long nighttime drive when the headlights only reach as far as the next patch of fog.</p><h2><strong>The Last Great Goth Holdout</strong></h2><p><strong>By 1990, many of goth&#8217;s most important bands were moving elsewhere. Fields of the Nephilim doubled down.</strong></p><p>The group emerged in Stevenage, Hertfordshire, in 1984, during a period when the roots of goth rock were already branching out in several directions. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus_(band)">Bauhaus</a> had fractured, with members moving into <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_and_Rockets_(band)">Love and Rockets</a> and solo work. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cure">The Cure</a> had become increasingly expansive and pop-facing. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siouxsie_and_the_Banshees">Siouxsie and the Banshees</a> were evolving beyond any fixed genre label. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cult">The Cult</a> had transformed from their Southern Death Cult beginnings into a much more hard-rocking machine. </p><p>Fields of the Nephilim did not exactly preserve goth in amber. They made it bigger, stranger, and more progressive. Their sound had hard-rock muscle, ambient patience, post-punk tension, psychedelic color, and the kind of theatrical commitment that could become laughable in lesser hands. Somehow, on <em>Elizium</em>, it never does.</p><p>It helps that the band was fully committed to the mythology. The songs invoke Biblical, occult, mystical, and Sumerian imagery. The band&#8217;s visual world brought together dusters, flour-covered faces, dark cowboy silhouettes, and a Sergio Leone-like sense of desert ritual. McCoy even appears in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stanley">Richard Stanley</a>&#8217;s 1990 cyberpunk film <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_(film)">Hardware</a></em>, wearing what was essentially his stage persona on screen.</p><p>That total commitment is a big part of why the album works. Fields of the Nephilim were not trying to sell us an attitude for a single cycle. They had built a world and were still living in it.</p><p>The American market largely missed them. But their influence is easier to hear in hindsight, in later gothic rock, darkwave, industrial, black metal, and even strands of emo that treated atmosphere as something more than an intro before the chorus arrives.</p><h2><strong>The Beautiful Problem With </strong><em><strong>Elizium</strong></em></h2><p><strong>The album&#8217;s greatest strength can also be its barrier.</strong></p><p>There is no easy single to grab the first-time listener by the collar. &#8220;For Her Light&#8221; and &#8220;(Paradise Regained)&#8221; have more immediate propulsion, but <em>Elizium</em> is not designed as a playlist machine. It asks for a full immersion, which means it can take time to find its way in.</p><p>That also makes the long closing stretch a challenge. &#8220;Wail of Sumer&#8221; and &#8220;And There Will Your Heart Be Also&#8221; create a nearly 14-minute final descent, with a persistent bass foundation and a deep commitment to repetition. If you are locked into its mood, the effect is hypnotic. If you are evaluating each section for a new hook, tempo shift, or payoff, it can feel like the record is asking you to float a little longer than you planned.</p><p>The production has a similar tradeoff. Its haze is a feature, not a flaw, but it may initially sound distant or thin to listeners raised on hyper-compressed modern rock records. This is not gym music. It is not ideal for scanning tracks while doing something else. It rewards volume and attention.</p><p>The community response captured that tension well. One listener heard &#8220;heavy goth storytelling,&#8221; another compared the production atmosphere to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy_Division">Joy Division</a>&#8217;s <em>Closer</em> with a touch of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queensr%C3%BFche">Queensr&#255;che</a>, and another loved the album while admitting that 30 minutes at a time might be enough. </p><p>That is an honest reaction. You may not play <em>Elizium</em> every day. But when you want an album to turn the lights down and turn the world sideways, few records do it better.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Upgrade&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">This post has bonus content for paid subscribers. Upgrade to get full access.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Upgrade"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2><strong>Worth Entering the Fog</strong></h2><p><em>Elizium</em> is the kind of overlooked record that makes our usual categories feel too small. It is a gothic rock album, certainly, but it is also a progressive rock suite, a dark ambient experience, a late-1980s production artifact, a headphone record, a Halloween record, and a reminder that 1990 held more possibilities than the history books tend to admit.</p><p>For longtime fans, this has often been treated as Fields of the Nephilim&#8217;s masterpiece. For us, it was a genuine discovery, especially because it found a way to feel ominous without becoming oppressive. The atmosphere is dense, but the record has air in it. The vocal is unmistakable, but the instrumental work is equally essential. The mysticism is everywhere, but you never need to decode every reference for the mood to land.</p><p>So the real questions are these:</p><ul><li><p>Does <em>Elizium</em> work as one continuous experience, or do you need a few standout tracks to come back to?</p></li><li><p>Is this the perfect entry point to gothic rock, or too deep into the fog for a newcomer?</p></li><li><p>Does the 1990 production sound dated, timeless, or somehow both?</p></li><li><p>And which Fields of the Nephilim album should we hear next: <em>Dawnrazor</em>, <em>The Nephilim</em>, or something later?</p></li></ul><p>Listen to the full episode for our final verdict, then tell us where <em>Elizium</em> takes you in the comments.</p><h3><strong>Episode Highlights</strong></h3><ul><li><p>00:00:46: Keith Tasker returns with his pick, Fields of the Nephilim&#8217;s <em>Elizium</em></p></li><li><p>00:02:10: Nephilim mythology, occult imagery, and the band&#8217;s theatrical foundations</p></li><li><p>00:04:38: Carl McCoy in <em>Hardware</em>, plus the band&#8217;s cinematic Spaghetti Western visual world</p></li><li><p>00:06:05: Andy Jackson, Pink Floyd connections, and why the production feels so enormous</p></li><li><p>00:07:30: Jay and Tim go in cold, expecting metal or industrial and finding something else</p></li><li><p>00:09:38: Why <em>Elizium</em> works as three movements instead of eight conventional songs</p></li><li><p>00:15:39: What works, accessible darkness, Rush-like guitar textures, and McCoy&#8217;s voice</p></li><li><p>00:20:26: A beautiful, ethereal, enveloping headphone record</p></li><li><p>00:26:38: Keith explains why this is an album experience, not a track-picking record</p></li><li><p>00:30:09: Aleister Crowley, <em>Hardware</em>, Richard Stanley, and the larger Nephilim universe</p></li><li><p>00:34:19: What does not work, thinness, reverb, and the challenge of the extended finale</p></li><li><p>00:42:20: The record as a three-part journey through death, submission, and acceptance</p></li><li><p>00:45:12: Final verdicts, three worthy albums and one lifelong obsession</p></li><li><p>00:47:53: Why <em>Elizium</em> belongs on the ultimate Halloween playlist</p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The 80s Metal Poll Ended in a Tie. You Break It.]]></title><description><![CDATA[Holland&#8217;s Little Monsters and L.A. Guns&#8217; Cocked & Loaded finished dead even at the top of the ballot. The 24-hour runoff vote is now open.]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/the-80s-metal-poll-ended-in-a-tie</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/the-80s-metal-poll-ended-in-a-tie</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2026 16:18:14 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LA6q!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf225fb2-be21-435e-8819-f02f8d7fed93_1254x1254.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The votes came in across <a href="http://www.digmeoutpodcast.com">Substack</a> and <a href="http://www.dmounion.com">Patreon</a>. We got arguments about &#8220;One in a Million,&#8221; reservations about L.A. Guns&#8217; consistency, a few strong Tesla defenses, and more than one person discovering Holland in real time.</p><p>And after all that?</p><p>A tie between two records with very different stories behind them.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LA6q!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf225fb2-be21-435e-8819-f02f8d7fed93_1254x1254.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LA6q!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf225fb2-be21-435e-8819-f02f8d7fed93_1254x1254.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h2><strong>The first-round results</strong></h2><ul><li><p><strong>Holland &#8212; </strong><em><strong>Little Monsters</strong></em> | <strong>31.25%</strong> </p></li><li><p><strong>L.A. Guns &#8212; </strong><em><strong>Cocked &amp; Loaded</strong></em> | <strong>31.25%</strong> </p></li><li><p>Tesla &#8212; <em>The Great Radio Controversy</em> | 25.00% </p></li><li><p>Guns N&#8217; Roses &#8212; <em>Lies</em>| 12.50%</p></li></ul><p>Tesla made a serious late push. Joe Royland made a persuasive case that <em>The Great Radio Controversy</em> avoided the sophomore slump and improved on Tesla&#8217;s debut. But prior Dig Me Out coverage of <em>Mechanical Resonance </em>clearly factored into some voting. And while Guns N&#8217; Roses had their defenders, <em>Lies</em> could not overcome the record&#8217;s dated, controversial material for several voters.</p><p>Which leaves us with the two albums that sparked the most interesting argument.</p><h2><strong>The case for Holland</strong></h2><p>Holland is the record on this ballot that feels like a genuine Dig Me Out mission: a riff-heavy Chicago hard-rock album that seemed built for bigger things, then slipped away before enough people got the chance to hear it.</p><p>Scott Halgirm put it simply: &#8220;So Holland.&#8221;</p><p>Gavin called <em>Little Monsters</em> &#8220;pretty good,&#8221; but said its obscurity was what tipped the scale: &#8220;Which leaves Holland for the win, plus it&#8217;s pretty good.&#8221;</p><p>Kyle Bittner had never heard the band, but the mystery&#8212;and that cover&#8212;was enough: &#8220;Rolling with the majority and going with Holland. Never heard of them and the cover is wicked.&#8221;</p><p>For Mike Androff, it was more than a discovery. He remembered Holland getting regular play on Chicago&#8217;s Real Precious Metal radio in the mid-&#8217;80s, especially &#8220;Gotta Run&#8221; and &#8220;Wake Up the Neighborhood,&#8221; and called the album formative to his growing metal and hard-rock tastes.</p><p>Joe Royland also pointed out that <em>Little Monsters</em> features the lead guitar work of future shred fixture Michael Angelo Batio. That is exactly the kind of loose thread Dig Me Out likes to pull: a band with the songs, the players, and the regional momentum&#8212;then no obvious second chapter.</p><h2><strong>The case for L.A. Guns</strong></h2><p>Then there is <em>Cocked &amp; Loaded</em>: not a mystery, exactly, but a record with enough hooks, grit, and guitar swagger to keep earning another listen.</p><p>Jacob Miller got right to the point: &#8220;Only reason I am not doing Tesla is because <em>Mechanical Resonance</em> was already done. gimme LA Guns.&#8221;</p><p>That is the L.A. Guns argument. If Holland is the band that might have been huge, <em>Cocked &amp; Loaded</em> is the record that knew exactly what it was trying to do and did it with a sneer, a chorus, and a guitar riff that arrives wearing sunglasses indoors.</p><p>Scott&#8217;s critique is fair&#8212;&#8220;Cocked n Loaded has its moments but pretty inconsistent&#8221;&#8212;but it still made enough of a case to finish tied for first. That is why we need the runoff.</p><p><strong>Vote in the runoff below. It stays open for 24 hours.</strong></p><div class="poll-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:1164842}" data-component-name="PollToDOM"></div><p>The winner becomes the next full Dig Me Out episode and Substack post: the band&#8217;s story, the album review, the ratings, the community score, and the comments that helped put it there.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Hawkwind Made Proto-Stoner Rock Before Anyone Had a Name for It ]]></title><description><![CDATA[The riffs are thick. The journey is long. The influence is everywhere.]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/hawkwind-made-proto-stoner-rock-before</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/hawkwind-made-proto-stoner-rock-before</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2026 14:27:06 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/213709404/60d03d52029f8a7b3163c86e698513ed.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if Mot&#246;rhead began inside a cosmic freak-out?</p><p>That is the disorienting pleasure of <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Ritual">The Space Ritual Alive in Liverpool and London</a></em>, commonly shortened to <em>Space Ritual</em>. Released in May 1973 by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Artists_Records">United Artists Records</a>, it was Hawkwind&#8217;s fourth album, a live double set assembled from performances at Liverpool Stadium and the Brixton Sundown in late 1972. It reached No. 9 on the UK Albums Chart, an astonishing result for an 86-minute collision of fuzz riffs, electronics, spoken-word science fiction, saxophone, flute, and long stretches where the song seems less interested in ending than escaping Earth&#8217;s gravity.</p><p>Hawkwind won the Dig Me Out poll with 43 percent of the combined vote, ahead of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Gilder">Nick Gilder</a>&#8217;s <em>City Nights</em>, Irish <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skid_Row_(Irish_band)">Skid Row</a>&#8217;s <em>34 Hours</em>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodrock">Bloodrock</a>&#8217;s <em>Bloodrock U.S.A.</em> The album was suggested by Eric Peterson, and it gave all three of us a chance to confront a band we mostly knew through one looming name: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmy">Lemmy</a>.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://airtable.com/app356TrsQzwKOddY/pagITslz557viDn90/form&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Suggest an Album&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://airtable.com/app356TrsQzwKOddY/pagITslz557viDn90/form"><span>Suggest an Album</span></a></p><h2><strong>Before Mot&#246;rhead Had a Name</strong></h2><p>Lemmy is not hiding in the background here.</p><p>Before he formed <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mot%C3%B6rhead">Mot&#246;rhead</a>, Lemmy Kilmister played bass for Hawkwind from 1971 to 1975. On <em>Space Ritual</em>, that bass is not merely holding down the root notes while the rest of the band floats away. It is a snarling, overdriven force, loud in the mix and constantly moving, often sounding like the engine beneath the entire spacecraft.</p><p>The strange thing is that Hawkwind does not sound much like Mot&#246;rhead. This is not a rehearsal tape for &#8220;Ace of Spades.&#8221; It is slower, looser, murkier, and far more willing to let a riff repeat until it becomes hypnotic. Yet the clues are there. The aggressive pick attack, the distortion, the way the bass can carry a melody and a riff at the same time, all point toward what Lemmy would eventually turn into something louder, leaner, and absolutely unforgiving.</p><p>That is the fun archaeological dig inside this record. Strip away the spoken passages, the synth wash, the flute, the free-form detours, and some of these riffs could become early Mot&#246;rhead songs with enough speed, compression, and attitude. Instead, Hawkwind lets them breathe for eight or ten minutes, sometimes longer. It is rock and roll built around propulsion rather than precision.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>This was never meant to be background music.</p><p>Hawkwind&#8217;s <em>Space Ritual</em> was designed as a full sensory environment, not simply a live document. The original release came with a 32-page booklet, while the stage presentation involved dancers, mimes, lights, electronics, and science-fiction imagery. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Moorcock">Michael Moorcock</a>, the acclaimed science-fiction author associated with Hawkwind, contributed poetry and writing to the wider project.</p><p>That context matters, because listening digitally can make the record feel like a giant, baffling jam with strange interruptions. In the room, surrounded by strobes, dancers, noise, and a crowd committed to the trip, it was a happening. Hawkwind were not reproducing their studio material cleanly each night. They were creating a theatrical mess, partly structured and partly improvised, with enough moving parts to make even modern arena rock look restrained.</p><p>It also explains the album&#8217;s biggest challenge. An 86-minute double album asks a lot from a listener who has not already learned Hawkwind&#8217;s language. The music flows in and out of itself. A title may repeat until you find the hook, or it may never give you one in the conventional sense. The performance is compelling because it refuses ordinary rock rules, but that refusal can make the record feel like an experience you admire before you fully understand it.</p><p>The future is hiding in the feedback.</p><p>AllMusic describes <em>Space Ritual</em> as a volatile blend of prog, acid rock, proto-metal, science fiction, fantasy, and jazz, a combination that has aged into something prophetically influential rather than merely dated. That influence is easier to hear when we stop trying to force Hawkwind into the same box as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Floyd">Pink Floyd</a> or <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_(band)">Genesis</a>. They may have shared a loose &#8220;space rock&#8221; designation, but Hawkwind&#8217;s music is more physical, more repetitive, and more confrontational.</p><p>&#8220;Brainstorm&#8221; has a violent, droning intensity that feels closer to later underground guitar music than the graceful expansiveness usually associated with progressive rock. &#8220;Orgone Accumulator&#8221; rides a heavy blues groove that could be a distant ancestor to desert rock, though Hawkwind stretch it into a ten-minute incantation rather than a compact riff rocker. &#8220;Space Is Deep&#8221; offers the closest thing to a recognizable, recurring melodic center, even as it remains submerged in effects and momentum.</p><p>That is why we kept hearing pieces of later bands in it: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Youth">Sonic Youth</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyuss">Kyuss</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queens_of_the_Stone_Age">Queens of the Stone Age</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rebel_Motorcycle_Club">Black Rebel Motorcycle Club</a>, even the more exploratory corners of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Verve">The Verve</a>. It is not that Hawkwind sounds exactly like any of them. It is that the record makes a case for repetition, distortion, and atmosphere as a musical destination rather than just a bridge between verses.</p><h2><strong>The Songs That Pull You In</strong></h2><p>Not every orbit needs a map.</p><p>&#8220;Brainstorm&#8221; is the obvious entry point for anyone who wants the volume and physicality behind Hawkwind&#8217;s reputation. It is built on a relentless, heavy pulse that makes the band&#8217;s proto-metal reputation feel earned. &#8220;Lord of Light&#8221; stands out for its wild saxophone moments, a reminder that Hawkwind could bring jazz instrumentation into a hard-rock context without making it feel polite.</p><p>&#8220;Down Through the Night&#8221; and &#8220;Space Is Deep&#8221; provide more identifiable footholds, especially for listeners who need a phrase or chorus-like shape to grab onto. They show that beneath the electronics and cosmic theatre, Hawkwind understood the basic appeal of a riff, a repeated line, and a groove that will not quit.</p><p>Then there is &#8220;Orgone Accumulator,&#8221; which is both part of the appeal and part of the problem. The riff is thick, bluesy, and memorable. The lyric is built around a barrage of rhymes and repetition, making it goofy, oddly catchy, and a little exhausting over its full length. It is a perfect snapshot of <em>Space Ritual</em>: there is a genuinely great idea here, and Hawkwind refuses to leave it alone after three minutes.</p><p>The spoken-word interludes create an even stranger push and pull. They break the musical flow, but their cold, sci-fi language gives the whole thing an unnerving cult-object quality. A playlist of the spoken pieces alone might be a bizarrely effective entryway into this world.</p><p>Hawkwind found the riff. Then they kept looking.</p><p>The record&#8217;s excess is inseparable from its identity. Cutting it down into a sharp 40-minute set would make it more accessible, but it would also remove the sense of being trapped in a long, noisy, theatrical voyage. This is not music that politely arrives, makes its point, and leaves. It circles, drifts, blares, and occasionally seems to forget what planet it started on.</p><p>Still, a listener does not need to treat <em>Space Ritual</em> as a test of endurance. Sampling it is a completely valid way to experience it. Pull out a few tracks. Start with &#8220;Brainstorm,&#8221; &#8220;Space Is Deep,&#8221; &#8220;Orgone Accumulator,&#8221; and &#8220;Lord of Light.&#8221; Listen for Lemmy&#8217;s bass. Listen for the heavy, single-riff focus that would later emerge in stoner rock and heavy music. Then decide whether you want to spend the remaining hour traveling farther out.</p><p>That is also the limitation. The vocal melodies can feel functional rather than commanding, and the lyrics rarely supply the personality that a singer like Lemmy would later bring to a similarly blunt riff. The live presentation was clearly essential to Hawkwind&#8217;s power, but a streaming-era listener gets only the audio, not the dancers, lights, booklet, costumes, and collective sensory overload that helped turn the original show into a total artwork.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2><strong>Our Verdict Stays in Orbit</strong></h2><p>This is not an easy record, but it is an unusually revealing one.</p><p><em>Space Ritual</em> is a document of a band testing how far rock music could be pushed before it stopped behaving like conventional rock music. It is also a rare chance to hear Lemmy operating inside a radically different machine, with his future unmistakably present in his bass tone but not yet fully formed in the songs around him.</p><p>AllMusic hears an album whose wild mixture of acid rock, proto-metal, science fiction, and jazz has remained influential over time. We hear that influence too, even when the album&#8217;s length, spoken passages, and refusal to edit itself make the voyage feel more admirable than repeatable.</p><p>Would you want the whole double album, or a carefully selected EP-length passage through the ritual? Does Lemmy sound like Mot&#246;rhead waiting to happen, or does Hawkwind erase that story more than it confirms it? Which piece of this noisy, cosmic puzzle still lands in 2026?</p><p>Listen to the full episode for our final rating, then drop a comment with the track you would put on a proto-stoner-rock sampler.</p><h3><strong>Episode Highlights</strong></h3><ul><li><p>00:42: The August 70s poll, four community picks and Hawkwind&#8217;s 43 percent victory</p></li><li><p>02:49: What did Hawkwind sound like before anyone pressed play?</p></li><li><p>05:06: The first clear Mot&#246;rhead breadcrumb, &#8220;Motorhead&#8221; on <em>Warrior on the Edge of Time</em></p></li><li><p>12:17: <em>Space Ritual</em> history, the 1973 release, chart run, and live-performance concept</p></li><li><p>16:09: Lemmy&#8217;s bass, aggressive, melodic, and impossible to ignore</p></li><li><p>24:42: Why the album feels like interstellar Grateful Dead without sounding like them</p></li><li><p>29:37: &#8220;Orgone Accumulator,&#8221; rhyming chaos, heavy groove, and ten minutes of commitment</p></li><li><p>37:43: &#8220;Brainstorm&#8221; as a bridge toward Sonic Youth and later noise rock</p></li><li><p>41:09: Proto-stoner-rock connections, Kyuss, Queens of the Stone Age, and fuzz-heavy repetition</p></li><li><p>51:44: Hawkwind as a theatrical art project rather than a conventional concert</p></li><li><p>55:08: The final debate, worthy double album, better single album, or better EP?</p></li><li><p>01:01:43: The consensus verdict and how to approach the record now</p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Which 80s Metal Album Would You Rescue From the Used Bin?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Choose between a controversial GNR detour, L.A. Guns at their sleaziest, Tesla&#8217;s ambitous follow-up, and Holland&#8217;s one-record mystery.]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/which-80s-metal-album-would-you-rescue</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/which-80s-metal-album-would-you-rescue</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2026 16:05:10 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iX6k!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa681bcb4-d5ae-41ed-97c3-18391d3844ac_1254x1254.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember buying an 80s metal cassette and trying to figure out what it meant for the band? Was this the record that would push them to the next level or the one you&#8217;ll find a year later in a cut-out bin and wonder why no one else got it?</p><p>That&#8217;s the story running through this month&#8217;s ballot. <em>Lies</em> caught <strong>Guns N&#8217; Roses</strong> in the awkward, combustible space between a debut that changed everything and an impossible follow-up. <em>Cocked &amp; Loaded</em> found <strong>L.A. Guns</strong> right in the middle of the Sunset Strip machine. <em>Little Monsters</em> made a case for <strong>Holland</strong> as Chicago&#8217;s next big export. And <em>The Great Radio Controversy</em> showed <strong>Tesla</strong> delivering something more ambitious than their debut.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iX6k!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa681bcb4-d5ae-41ed-97c3-18391d3844ac_1254x1254.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iX6k!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa681bcb4-d5ae-41ed-97c3-18391d3844ac_1254x1254.png 424w, 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Miller</strong></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Guns N Roses put out this half acoustic half fake live album to try to satisfy fans while they waited for the next album.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Released in the long shadow of <em>Appetite for Destruction</em>, <em>Lies</em> is a strange, transitional artifact: one side built around a manufactured live atmosphere, the other around acoustic confessionals, barroom swagger, and &#8220;Patience.&#8221; It is also inseparable from the controversy around its lyrics&#8212;a record that invites a conversation about late-&#8217;80s hard rock, its blind spots, and what it sounds like from this distance.</p><h3><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLy1F0NPv5gqU8ZpCR4wTDgJnU_oI9AfL">L.A. Guns &#8212; </a></strong><em><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLy1F0NPv5gqU8ZpCR4wTDgJnU_oI9AfL">Cocked &amp; Loaded</a></strong></em></h3><p>Suggested by <strong>Richard Waterman</strong></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Classic late 80&#8217;s LA sleazy rock/metal&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>There is no overthinking this one: <em>Cocked &amp; Loaded</em> is Sunset Strip rock at full velocity. Hooks, leather, danger, and enough sharp-edged guitar work to remind you why L.A. Guns were never just another name on a flyer beneath the headliner.</p><h3><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJOiBVTuMD0">Holland &#8212; </a></strong><em><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJOiBVTuMD0">Little Monsters</a></strong></em></h3><p>Suggested by <strong>Len Anzelde</strong></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Probably the best metal band coming out of Chicago in the 80&#8217;s.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>This is exactly why we run these polls. Holland made one album full of catchy, riff-heavy songs that sounded built for wider radio&#8212;and then largely disappeared. <em>Little Monsters</em> has the unmistakable pull of a lost contender: the record you find years later and wonder how it slipped through the cracks.</p><h3><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIroPiK47FOkOxhFcufZ_WuqYh8OII-Is">Tesla &#8212; </a></strong><em><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIroPiK47FOkOxhFcufZ_WuqYh8OII-Is">The Great Radio Controversy</a></strong></em></h3><p>Suggested by <strong>Whitney Beehler</strong></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Great Hard Rock album from a band that gained a lot of attention at the tail end of the 80s Metal craze.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Tesla arrived when the metal boom was beginning to buckle under its own excess, but <em>The Great Radio Controversy</em> had more muscle and heart than most of its era. It is a big, lived-in hard-rock record that deserves a fresh listen beyond the usual hits-and-hair-metal shorthand.</p><h2><strong>Your vote makes the episode</strong></h2><div class="poll-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:1111746}" data-component-name="PollToDOM"></div><p>Vote for the album you want to hear us pull apart, defend, question, rate, and place back in its proper corner of rock history. The winner across Patreon and Substack becomes the next full Dig Me Out episode&#8212;and your comments may wind up in the discussion.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Cut City: The Swedish Post-Punk Band You Missed ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Revisiting Exit Decades, a 2007 album shaped by The Sound, Interpol, and dark-wave tension.]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/cut-city-the-swedish-post-punk-band</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/cut-city-the-swedish-post-punk-band</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2026 14:39:09 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/212706257/dbc6ec5ac0d2b37bf7c340ea1a87e608.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This week&#8217;s pick came from returning <a href="http://www.dmounion.com">Board of Directors</a> member Darren Leach, who tossed us his first-ever selection from the noughties: a Swedish post-punk revival record he found on a scrappy MP3 blog back in 2009 or 2010, then tracked down on vinyl years later. It has never toured outside Sweden, it barely got a US release, and somehow it still sounds better than most of the bands that got famous doing the same thing. Want to bring YOUR favorite lost album to the table? <a href="https://airtable.com/app356TrsQzwKOddY/pagITslz557viDn90/form"><mark data-color="#ffff00" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Suggest an album</mark></a> for a future episode or community poll. </em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bNNU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F56721840-5d6e-4e32-86c5-0ffcd7449255_768x768.webp" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bNNU!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F56721840-5d6e-4e32-86c5-0ffcd7449255_768x768.webp 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>A Second Wave of Post-Punk</strong></h3><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol_(band)">Interpol</a> dropped <em>Turn on the Bright Lights</em> in 2002 and lit the fuse for a whole genre of bands mining the same <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy_Division">Joy Division</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_Four_(band)">Gang of Four</a> vocabulary. Three years later, in 2005, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloc_Party">Bloc Party</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editors_(band)">Editors</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max%C3%AFmo_Park">Max&#239;mo Park</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bravery">The Bravery</a> all released debuts within the same twelve months, a compressed second wave rather than an early-decade wave. Cut City arrived in 2007, right as Editors and Interpol themselves were already shifting sound, making Exit Decades a late entry into a scene that was already moving on.</p><p>The record lives in the friction between locked-in, almost mechanical downstrummed rhythm sections and loose, expressive, clearly human performances layered over top. That contrast, tight and stilted on one hand, propulsive and dynamic on the other, is what keeps nine short songs from blurring together. Vocalist Max Hansson&#8217;s baritone floats between rhythmic near-speaking and a croon that occasionally opens up toward melodic alt-rock, drawing comparisons to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suede_(band)">Suede</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo_(band)">Placebo</a> as much as the obvious Joy Division and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sound_(band)">The Sound</a> touchstones.</p><p>Unlike a lot of the foundational post-punk records this album is indebted to, which were often tinny and budget-constrained, Exit Decades benefits from modern recording clarity. Every instrument sits in its own space; the bass acts as a genuine melodic anchor rather than bottom-end filler, and the guitar is deployed sparingly for maximum impact rather than played wall-to-wall. Tracks like &#8220;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/0vl16olWVjIQwjbkoXCZt5">Like Ashes Like Millions</a>,&#8221; &#8220;Such Verve,&#8221; and &#8220;Rival Trial&#8221; show off a band that knows when to strip back the arrangement and let a broken drum pattern breathe before snapping back into gear.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>There&#8217;s a real argument to be made that Cut City showed up to the party after the novelty had worn off. By 2007 the acts that kicked off this revival were already evolving past it, and Cut City never toured outside Sweden, never played the UK, and never really pushed the record commercially. PopMatters&#8217; contemporary review flagged the same tension, noting the album is &#8220;effective, if a bit predictable,&#8221; and that the band&#8217;s fidelity to the source material sometimes reads as &#8220;disingenuous&#8221; rather than innovative.</p><h3><strong>What Happened After</strong></h3><p>Cut City went quiet for stretches rather than breaking up outright. Their second album, <a href="https://www.discogs.com/master/479159-Cut-City-Wheres-The-Harm-In-Dreams-Disarmed">Where&#8217;s the Harm in Dreams Disarmed</a>, came out in 2012, followed by a ten-year gap before 2022&#8217;s <em>Tape Days</em> and 2023&#8217;s <em>Honeymoon at the Barricades</em> brought the band back. Members also play in the more punk-leaning project <a href="https://cutcity.bandcamp.com/">Missiles</a>, described as sharing the post-punk DNA with shorter, faster songs.</p><p>Nine songs, thirty-four minutes, and the discussion kept circling one question: does this record have the killer single or quirky vocal hook that made its American and British peers stick? Fan and critic sentiment splits along that exact line, PopMatters called it &#8220;straight throwback&#8221; with &#8220;limited appeal,&#8221; while Discogs users currently rate the album a very healthy 4.77 out of 5. We debated whether the hooks are there and just underdeveloped, or whether the sonic performance and mix quality carry the record on their own. Does a record need a &#8220;Love Will Tear Us Apart&#8221; moment to be memorable, or is atmosphere enough? And does arriving three years after the trend peaked actually hurt an album, or just make it a footnote worth digging up now? Listen to the <a href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/">full episode</a> to hear where we landed, and drop a comment with your own take.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Upgrade&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">This post has bonus content for paid subscribers. Upgrade to watch the video podcast.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Upgrade"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><strong>Episode Highlights</strong></p><ul><li><p>00:00: Intro, welcome back guest Darren Leach and his history with the show</p></li><li><p>01:49: Darren introduces Cut City and Exit Decades, released 2007</p></li><li><p>02:20: How Darren discovered the album on a blog in the late 2000s</p></li><li><p>04:51: Band background, Deleted Art, Gold Standard Laboratories, discography timeline</p></li><li><p>08:51: Jay breaks down the mechanical vs. expressive tension in the arrangements</p></li><li><p>14:16: Tim on the baritone vocal style and comparisons to Richard Butler and The Sound</p></li><li><p>19:05: Darren on the mix, bass as melodic anchor, and &#8220;Rival Trial&#8221;</p></li><li><p>26:49: What doesn&#8217;t work: the missing killer vocal hook</p></li><li><p>33:09: Mapping the post-punk revival timeline against Interpol, Bloc Party, Editors</p></li><li><p>37:41: Hosts reveal ratings and share the Patreon poll result</p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Tora Tora Sounds Like Judas Priest Fighting Aerosmith]]></title><description><![CDATA[Inside the riff-and-blues collision that made Surprise Attack different from every other 1989 hair metal record.]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/tora-tora-sounds-like-judas-priest</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/tora-tora-sounds-like-judas-priest</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2026 14:29:05 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/211711708/c31fefd00063da8e64c52f6e8013c716.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suggested by Patreon member Patrick Testa in a community poll against Metallica&#8217;s Master of Puppets, Slade&#8217;s Keep Your Hands Off My Power Supply, and Mot&#246;rhead&#8217;s Iron Fist, Tora Tora&#8217;s Surprise Attack won in a landslide with 50% of the vote. Want to bring YOUR favorite lost album to the table? <a href="https://airtable.com/app356TrsQzwKOddY/pagITslz557viDn90/form">Suggest it</a> for a future episode or community poll.</p><h3><strong>A Memphis band born out of Free Beer</strong></h3><p><em>Surprise Attack</em> is the debut studio album from Tora Tora, a hard rock band formed in Memphis, Tennessee in 1985, released in May 1989 on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%26M_Records">A&amp;M Records</a> and produced by Joe Hardy and Paul Ebersold. According to a Headbangers Ball interview, a friend of the band handed them a list of 60 to 70 possible band names, and Tora Tora was the one that stuck; the group&#8217;s original name had reportedly been Free Beer. Frontman Anthony Corder and guitarist Keith Douglas anchored a lineup that, unlike most of the Sunset Strip class of 1989, wasn&#8217;t jockeying for space against Poison, Warrant, and M&#246;tley Cr&#252;e. Being 10 years removed from the epicenter of hair metal and working out of Memphis instead of Los Angeles let their influences run closer to Aerosmith and Judas Priest without the scene politics diluting them.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r3Uy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F004d981a-ef73-4d2e-b8bb-4c05d43b65a1_1000x1000.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r3Uy!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F004d981a-ef73-4d2e-b8bb-4c05d43b65a1_1000x1000.jpeg 424w, 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Songs like &#8220;One for the Road&#8221; flip between the two feels within the same track rather than settling into either lane. &#8220;Being There&#8221; opens with a Leslie organ tone that gives it a soulful, almost 70s texture before the chorus turns into a chugging metal hook, a nonstandard spin on the power ballad formula that trades polish for grit. &#8220;Walkin&#8217; Shoes&#8221; builds its hook by reusing the same riff in the intro and chorus but cutting it short in the verse, a small structural trick that keeps the song&#8217;s signature lick from wearing out its welcome.</p><p>A&amp;M pulled three singles from the record: &#8220;Walkin&#8217; Shoes,&#8221; &#8220;Guilty,&#8221; and &#8220;Phantom Rider&#8221;, and the trio doesn&#8217;t sound like a single band phoning in three versions of the same song. &#8220;Guilty&#8221; carries a five-to-ten-second stretch of unusually chunky, distorted guitar after the first chorus that never repeats anywhere else on the record, a moment specific enough that it landed on mixtapes for years. &#8220;Phantom Rider&#8221; leans hard into a Bad Company style groove that stands apart from the glossier singles around it. The album reached number 47 on the Billboard 200, modest by hair metal standards but enough to get the band on the road opening for <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.A._Guns">LA Guns</a>, then for <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cult">The Cult</a> on the Sonic Temple tour alongside <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonham_(band)">Bonham</a>, and for date runs with <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_White_(band)">Great White</a>.</p><p>The record&#8217;s biggest obstacle isn&#8217;t the songwriting, it&#8217;s the mix. Reverb and delay sit over nearly everything, to the point that bass playing, organ parts, and even guitar solos get buried in a wash rather than cutting through. Compared to a band like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badlands_(band)">Badlands</a>, which stripped its production down to emphasize raw performance, <em>Surprise Attack</em> sounds like it defaulted to the standard late-80s hard rock settings rather than chasing the drier, punchier tone the songs seem built for. It is the kind of album that rewards a remix or remaster candidate conversation, because the performances underneath the haze, particularly the vocal and guitar work, hold up better than the mix lets on.</p><h3><strong>The verdict </strong></h3><p>Community sentiment on this album splits hard. Some listeners call <em>Surprise Attack</em> an underrated great that got unfairly lumped into the tail end of the hair glam era despite not really belonging there. Others have a much colder read, with one commenter recalling mercilessly mocking the band&#8217;s friends over the record back in the day. Even a Wikipedia-linked contemporary review dismissed it as a Van Halen and Dokken knockoff, a comparison our hosts pushed back on hard. So does the deeper album justify the singles that made it a modest hit, or do the singles carry a record that gets less memorable the further you go? Is the reverb-heavy 1989 production a dealbreaker or just a product of its time? And which handful of songs would actually survive a trim? The hosts weighed in with a real verdict on this one, ranking it somewhere between a worthy full album and a tighter, stronger EP. Listen to the episode for the full ratings breakdown, and drop a comment with where you&#8217;d land.</p><h3><strong>What happened to the band</strong></h3><p>Tora Tora followed <em>Surprise Attack</em> with 1992&#8217;s <em>Wild America</em>, then largely dissolved as the industry&#8217;s tastes swung toward grunge. In the years since, the label FNA has released a string of compilations and unreleased material, including <em>Bombs Away: The Unreleased Surprise Attack Recordings</em>, and the band reunited to release <em>The Bastards of Beale</em> on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontiers_Records">Frontiers Records</a> in 2019, followed by a live acoustic EP. Corder still plays regional dates around Ohio, where local Columbus musician Charlie Bonnet III has opened several of the reunion shows.</p><h3><strong>Episode Highlights</strong></h3><ul><li><p><span>Intro - "Walkin' Shoes" </span></p></li><li><p>00:00: Poll results, Tora Tora wins the four-way poll with 50% of the vote against Metallica, Slade, and Mot&#246;rhead</p></li><li><p>04:18: Band history, hosts share their personal history with Tora Tora and the second album Wild America</p></li><li><p>06:35: Tour bus story, a firsthand account of interviewing the band in 1992 before a Newport headlining show</p></li><li><p>20:39: What works, breaking down the blend of Judas Priest style riffs and bluesy grooves across the record</p></li><li><p><span>23:19 - "One for the Road" </span></p></li><li><p><span>24:53 - "Being There" </span></p></li><li><p><span>32:31 - "Guilty" </span></p></li><li><p><span>33:34 - "Walkin' Shoes" </span></p></li><li><p><span>35:16 - "Riverside Drive" </span></p></li><li><p>39:34: Band name origin, the list of 60 to 70 names and the Free Beer backstory</p></li><li><p>40:04: What doesn&#8217;t work, a deep dive on the album&#8217;s reverb-heavy 1989 production</p></li><li><p>47:28: Legacy, the FNA reissue campaign, Bombs Away, and the 2019 reunion album The Bastards of Beale</p></li><li><p>49:43: Final verdict, worthy album, better EP, or decent single</p></li><li><p><span>Outro - &#8220;Hard Times&#8221;</span></p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Space Rock, Proto-Metal, and One Glorious Album Cover ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Hawkwind&#8217;s cosmic live blast, Skid Row&#8217;s early Gary Moore, Bloodrock&#8217;s second chance, and Nick Gilder&#8217;s glam-pop gem&#8212;your vote picks the winner.]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/space-rock-proto-metal-and-one-glorious</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/space-rock-proto-metal-and-one-glorious</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2026 18:33:01 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/fa444904-f3b0-438f-9bb1-49af5d586853_1254x1254.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The riffs are thick, the cover art is questionable in exactly the right way, and somewhere in this ballot is the next Dig Me Out episode. </p><p>Four heavy records from the &#8217;70s. Four different entry points into the decade. One winner gets the full Dig Me Out treatment: history, deep dive, host ratings, community ratings, and the comments that keep the conversation going.</p><p><strong>Paid members:</strong> this is your ballot. You&#8217;re not just picking a record for us to talk about&#8212;you&#8217;re deciding what gets made next.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div><hr></div><div class="image-gallery-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;gallery&quot;:{&quot;images&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a772301b-3873-4057-b984-51e9ebb18ed7_977x1000.jpeg&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/82c620e3-e6e2-4a49-908f-f79979fd8ad5_640x640.jpeg&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/00d56c50-a93b-478e-bd42-5bbd5638b157_640x640.jpeg&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/webp&quot;,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/53d05d48-791a-4a33-944d-d2f7905e0d0f_600x600.webp&quot;}],&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;staticGalleryImage&quot;:{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/577b682b-5de8-4c36-9508-796d7bf433e9_1456x1456.png&quot;}},&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true}"></div><h2><strong>Hawkwind &#8212; </strong><em><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNQpQzYS1qI">Space Ritual</a></strong></em><strong> (1973)</strong></h2><p>Suggested by <strong>Eric Peterson</strong></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;The DNA of stoner rock, weird, sci-fi, psych, and even trance can be found on this recording.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Hawkwind weren&#8217;t just playing hard rock; they sounded like they were trying to transmit it from a damaged spacecraft somewhere beyond the moon. <em>Space Ritual</em> is the definitive early live document from the British space-rock institution: proto-punk velocity, psychedelic drift, sci-fi atmosphere, and riffs that feel built to shake loose a few ceiling tiles.</p><p>Eric makes a strong case that this is the right doorway into Hawkwind beyond &#8220;Silver Machine&#8221; and &#8220;Urban Guerrilla.&#8221; If you want to hear a record where heavy psych, punk, stoner rock, and cosmic repetition are all beginning to bleed together, this is the one.</p><h2><strong>Skid Row &#8212; </strong><em><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM8-sqXKJWo">34 Hours</a></strong></em><strong> (1971)</strong></h2><p>Suggested by <strong>Gavin Reid</strong></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;The &#8217;70s Irish Skid Row is a mix of rock, proto-metal, psychedelic and prog sounds, to create something you&#8217;ll want to hear.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>No, not that Skid Row. This is the early-&#8217;70s Irish band with a young Gary Moore, playing before the legend had fully arrived but with plenty of evidence already on tape.</p><p><em>34 Hours</em> is what happens when blues-rock muscle, psychedelic wandering, proto-metal crunch, and prog curiosity all decide to pile into the same van. Gavin&#8217;s &#8220;maybe even a supergroup&#8221; thought is hard to shake&#8212;especially knowing where Moore would go from here. This is the sound of a guitarist and a band testing every possible route before the map was finished.</p><h2><strong>Bloodrock &#8212; </strong><em><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_loS7YoloXOkCWASPvxOsr-gIEOZgh9RMg">Bloodrock U.S.A.</a></strong></em><strong> (1971)</strong></h2><p>Suggested by <strong>Kyle Bittner</strong></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;My dad, who passed a few years ago, had this in his collection and when I was younger I was enamored with the cover art, but obviously hated the music at the time.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Sometimes the hook is a riff. Sometimes it&#8217;s an album cover that burns itself into your brain before you&#8217;re old enough to understand what the music is doing.</p><p>Kyle rediscovered <em>Bloodrock U.S.A.</em> through exactly that kind of family-memory detour: a record from his late father&#8217;s collection, remembered first for its artwork and then found again years later with different ears. He came back to it, dug into Bloodrock&#8217;s catalog, and found an album that feels ready for another shot.</p><p>And yes, Kyle is also right about the cover: it makes an immediate, extremely persuasive case for itself.</p><h2><strong>Nick Gilder &#8212; </strong><em><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBz0iDg-evI">City Nights</a></strong></em><strong> (1978)</strong></h2><p>Suggested by <strong>Whitney Beehler</strong></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Chunky, glammy power pop songs including &#8216;Hot Child in the City,&#8217; &#8216;(She&#8217;s) One of the Boys&#8217; and &#8216;Got to Get Out.&#8217;&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Need some glitter with your guitar muscle? Whitney Beehler brings <em>City Nights</em>, an album packed with glossy hooks, chunky guitars, and enough glam swagger to make the whole ballot lean toward the mirror.</p><p>&#8220;Hot Child in the City&#8221; is the obvious calling card, but <em>City Nights</em> has more to offer than one massive single. It&#8217;s power pop with a little grit under the polish&#8212;the kind of record that makes a strong argument that catchy doesn&#8217;t mean lightweight.</p><h2><strong>Cast Your Vote</strong></h2><div class="poll-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:1005727}" data-component-name="PollToDOM"></div><p>One of these albums becomes the next full Dig Me Out episode. We&#8217;ll get into the band, the record, the ratings, the poll fallout, and the community takes that deserve to be heard.</p><p><strong>Paid members, cast your vote now.</strong> You get voting power, a place in the comments, and a real hand in deciding what we dig into next.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Which album would hurt the most to see lose&#8212;and what song from it still gets you every time?</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Before “Run-Around,” There Was a Different Blues Traveler]]></title><description><![CDATA[It had virtuosity, songs, Gregg Allman, and no clear commercial lane.]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/before-run-around-there-was-a-different</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/before-run-around-there-was-a-different</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2026 14:25:13 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/210674880/e9320b104af60a81d992dc48effd8b98.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For plenty of listeners, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blues_Traveler">Blues Traveler</a> remains trapped in a very specific mid-90s frame: John Popper&#8217;s harmonica, &#8220;Run-Around&#8221; in permanent radio rotation, &#8220;Hook&#8221; cleverly explaining how pop songs work while becoming one itself. Those singles were huge, and they earned their place. But they can also make the earlier records seem like a prologue nobody needs to hear.</p><p>That is exactly why <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travelers_and_Thieves">Travelers &amp; Thieves</a></em> is worth reopening.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQ5g!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbebc0694-1246-47e3-8313-86658d02c086_1672x941.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQ5g!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbebc0694-1246-47e3-8313-86658d02c086_1672x941.png 424w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Released September 3, 1991 on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%26M_Records">A&amp;M Records</a>, it was the band&#8217;s second album, produced by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gaines">Jim Gaines</a> with the band itself. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Popper">John Popper</a>, guitarist <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chan_Kinchla">Chan Kinchla</a>, bassist <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Sheehan">Bobby Sheehan</a>, and drummer <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Hill">Brendan Hill</a> sound less like a future mainstream success story than a working unit testing its internal chemistry.</p><p><a href="http://www.dmounion.com">Board of Directors</a> member <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Patrick Testa&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:6836789,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/cfa24bba-402b-40b1-aba7-e6c21576da9b_144x144.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;a4ddb3d9-4749-4903-b465-71e17f3e37ed&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> brought this one to us partly because Blues Traveler has long been filed under bands people are tired of, dismiss, or never explore beyond the two ubiquitous singles. That dismissal misses the real tension of this record. <em>Travelers &amp; Thieves</em> is not built like a polished radio machine. It is a band caught between hook-minded rock songs, loose improvisational instincts, bluesy detours, reggae-colored rhythms, funk workouts, and a little progressive-rock ambition.</p><p>The record opens with &#8220;The Tiding,&#8221; a short ambient throat-clearing that feels almost suspiciously grand for a band often reduced to a harmonica vest and a pop chorus. Then &#8220;Onslaught&#8221; arrives with a bass-forward, shifting approach that immediately complicates the caricature. This is not the Blues Traveler most people think they know.</p><p>It is a band in motion, sometimes thrillingly so.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XKFx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F104c142b-cead-4d26-98f0-edb8959eab66_640x640.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XKFx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F104c142b-cead-4d26-98f0-edb8959eab66_640x640.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XKFx!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F104c142b-cead-4d26-98f0-edb8959eab66_640x640.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XKFx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F104c142b-cead-4d26-98f0-edb8959eab66_640x640.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XKFx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F104c142b-cead-4d26-98f0-edb8959eab66_640x640.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XKFx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F104c142b-cead-4d26-98f0-edb8959eab66_640x640.jpeg" width="640" height="640" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/104c142b-cead-4d26-98f0-edb8959eab66_640x640.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:640,&quot;width&quot;:640,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:197687,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/i/210674880?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F104c142b-cead-4d26-98f0-edb8959eab66_640x640.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XKFx!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F104c142b-cead-4d26-98f0-edb8959eab66_640x640.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XKFx!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F104c142b-cead-4d26-98f0-edb8959eab66_640x640.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XKFx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F104c142b-cead-4d26-98f0-edb8959eab66_640x640.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XKFx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F104c142b-cead-4d26-98f0-edb8959eab66_640x640.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h2><strong>Bobby Sheehan Is the Engine</strong></h2><p>The obvious star of Blues Traveler is Popper. The voice is unmistakable, the harmonica technique is absurdly fast, and the stage persona is large enough to become the whole story. But the deeper we got into <em>Travelers &amp; Thieves</em>, the clearer it became that Bobby Sheehan is the album&#8217;s foundation.</p><p>His bass playing is everywhere. It is active without merely showing off, melodic without losing the groove, and often responsible for making a song feel like it is moving in several directions at once. On &#8220;Onslaught&#8221; and &#8220;Ivory Tusk,&#8221; the lines have an almost fretless, flowing quality, a little closer to the kind of melodic low-end work that made <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Jam">Pearl Jam</a>&#8217;s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Ament">Jeff Ament</a> such a defining presence on <em>Ten</em> than to the expected roots-rock thump.</p><p>That activity is the source of both the album&#8217;s power and its friction.</p><p>When the band locks, the players create a fabric rather than a traffic jam. Bass lines coil around guitar figures, the drums keep the pulse nimble, and Popper&#8217;s rapid vocal phrasing becomes another rhythmic instrument in the arrangement. &#8220;Support Your Local Emperor&#8221; is one of the clearest examples. The bass does not simply support the song. It establishes the architecture, while Popper answers and reacts inside its movement.</p><p>That is the kind of band interplay Patrick loves most. For him, the apparent competition is actually connection, the same way the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Allman_Brothers_Band">Allman Brothers Band</a> could make two drummers, multiple guitar voices, and extended improvisation feel like one living organism.</p><p>But it is also where the record can make a listener work. There are moments when Popper&#8217;s dense, rapid-fire vocal delivery, Sheehan&#8217;s busy bass, and the rhythm section&#8217;s constant activity create a lot of information at once. If you want a giant chorus to grab you by the collar, <em>Travelers &amp; Thieves</em> can feel elusive. If you want to hear four musicians build a song from interlocking parts, it is rich with detail.</p><h2><strong>The Slow Songs Tell the Story</strong></h2><p>The surprise on <em>Travelers &amp; Thieves</em> is how often the quieter material carries the strongest emotional weight.</p><p>&#8220;Sweet Pain&#8221; gives Popper more room than the faster, denser cuts. Instead of turning his voice into a blur of cadence and syllables, the song lets him stretch out, reveal more tone, and lean into a chorus with real lift. The contrast between verse and chorus is sharper here. The arrangement breathes. You can hear the song gathering itself rather than simply moving forward.</p><p>That same sense of clarity makes &#8220;Support Your Local Emperor&#8221; stand out. Its relative restraint does not make it less ambitious. It makes the musical decisions easier to hear. The bass, vocal, and rhythmic ideas stop fighting for attention and begin to feel like parts of a single shape.</p><p>Then there is &#8220;Mountain Cry,&#8221; the record&#8217;s long closing piece and perhaps its most revealing collision of Blues Traveler&#8217;s goals. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Allman">Gregg Allman</a> appears on Hammond B3 organ and vocals, bringing a direct connection to the Southern-rock and jam-band lineage hovering around the record. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Barron_(singer)">Chris Barron</a> of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_Doctors">Spin Doctors</a> also appears elsewhere on the album, on &#8220;All in the Groove,&#8221; another reminder that these bands were not separate commercial categories yet. They were friends, peers, and products of overlapping scenes.</p><p>&#8220;Mountain Cry&#8221; is not flawless. The performance is more interesting than tidy, and the guest vocal does not always land with the force its pedigree promises. But the song matters because it shows the band reaching for something bigger than a clever groove or a potential single. It is bluesy, extended, and emotionally exposed.</p><p>That is the version of Blues Traveler we kept coming back to: the band that slows down long enough to let the songs become more than a display of skill.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2><strong>A Jam Band Before the Label Fit</strong></h2><p>Blues Traveler was not yet the giant they would become when <em>Travelers &amp; Thieves</em> arrived. Their breakout was still years away. &#8220;Run-Around,&#8221; from 1994&#8217;s <em>four</em>, eventually hit No. 8 on the Billboard Hot 100, an unusually massive crossover result for a band associated with improvisation and the jam scene.</p><p>That later success changes how we hear this earlier album. It makes <em>Travelers &amp; Thieves</em> feel like a record from a band that had not yet learned which parts of itself would sell.</p><p>The conventional story says Blues Traveler became successful when they found cleaner pop structures. There is truth in that. &#8220;Run-Around&#8221; and &#8220;Hook&#8221; are more direct, more concise, and easier to enter than the material here. Their choruses are clearer. Their shapes are less likely to wander. Even listeners who do not identify as jam-band fans can hear why those songs connected.</p><p>But <em>Travelers &amp; Thieves</em> makes a different case for the band. It shows that the group&#8217;s range was broader than the radio version suggested. The songs can sound like alternative rock one moment, New Orleans-inflected roots music the next, then funk, reggae, blues, and something close to jazz fusion. That reach is not always equally convincing. When the record pushes into funk or reggae, it can feel more like a stylistic experiment than an inhabited identity. When it leans into more open-ended fusion textures, some of us wanted a little more grit and less polish.</p><p>Still, the willingness to try all of it is what keeps the record interesting.</p><p>This was also the era in which Blues Traveler helped launch the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.O.R.D.E._Festival">H.O.R.D.E. Festival</a>, a touring environment built for artists who did not fit neatly into the dominant alternative-rock, metal, or pop lanes. Its name stood for Horizons of Rock Developing Everywhere, and its lineups eventually included artists as varied as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phish">Phish</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Crowes">The Black Crowes</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_Kravitz">Lenny Kravitz</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Folds_Five">Ben Folds Five</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilco">Wilco</a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_Coughing">Soul Coughing</a>.</p><p>The point was bigger than any one band. H.O.R.D.E. created a place where improvisation, roots music, college-rock instincts, and left-of-center songwriting could coexist. <em>Travelers &amp; Thieves</em>sounds like it belongs to that opening moment, before the categories hardened.</p><h2><strong>Great Players, Uneven Drama</strong></h2><p>The record&#8217;s central limitation is also the price of its personality.</p><p>There is an enormous amount of musicianship on <em>Travelers &amp; Thieves</em>. Popper can make the harmonica sound like a lead guitar, particularly in the speed and articulation of his runs. Kinchla is an inventive guitarist. Sheehan is constantly finding new paths through a measure. Hill stays alert to every turn.</p><p>Yet great playing does not automatically create drama.</p><p>For us, the faster songs can sometimes occupy a narrow dynamic space. Everyone is engaged, everyone is playing, everyone is offering something, but the record does not always create the sharp contrasts that make an album feel emotionally inevitable. We wanted more light and dark, more room between the notes, more moments when the band either got truly ugly or truly beautiful.</p><p>&#8220;I Have My Moments&#8221; demonstrates the tradeoff. It has one of the album&#8217;s most memorable hooks, but its vocal density can bury the very thing you want to carry away. &#8220;What&#8217;s for Breakfast&#8221; works better as a funk-oriented track because the band commits to the pocket and keeps returning to the center of the groove. &#8220;Bagheera,&#8221; meanwhile, is an enjoyable song that may be the easiest candidate for trimming if you are building the leaner version of this album.</p><p>The album is most compelling when it makes a choice. &#8220;Sweet Pain&#8221; chooses emotional space. &#8220;Support Your Local Emperor&#8221; chooses a strong internal structure. &#8220;Mountain Cry&#8221; chooses scale. &#8220;Onslaught&#8221; chooses movement.</p><p>Those choices are more interesting than a band simply trying to prove it can play.</p><h2><strong>The Verdict Is in the Tension</strong></h2><p><em>Travelers &amp; Thieves</em> is not the hidden masterpiece that makes every later Blues Traveler record irrelevant. It is better than that kind of claim, because it is a complicated record from a complicated band.</p><p>It catches a young group before the hits, when its musical vocabulary was wide open and its identity had not settled into the version radio would eventually reward. There are riffs and grooves here that deserve more credit. There are songs that feel like sketches for a more decisive future. There are moments where the density becomes exciting, and others where it becomes hard to enter.</p><p>That is the fun of the conversation.</p><p>Was Blues Traveler more compelling before it became a hitmaking band? Does Bobby Sheehan deserve to be remembered as one of the defining bass players of that era&#8217;s roots-rock explosion? Is &#8220;Sweet Pain&#8221; the emotional center of the album? And when you hear Popper&#8217;s rapid vocal phrasing, do you hear clutter or an instrument playing a different role in the band?</p><p>We have our full assessment in the episode, but this one is worth arguing about. Listen for the complete verdict, then drop a comment with the <em>Travelers &amp; Thieves</em> track you would keep, cut, or make the case for.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h3><strong>Episode Highlights</strong></h3><ul><li><p>00:14: Patrick Testa returns, and brings a deliberately challenging Blues Traveler pick</p></li><li><p>04:13: Why <em>Travelers &amp; Thieves</em>, not the debut or 1994&#8217;s <em>four</em></p></li><li><p>13:39: The album&#8217;s lineup, Jim Gaines production, and guest appearances from Gregg Allman and Chris Barron</p></li><li><p>16:35: H.O.R.D.E. Festival, and where Blues Traveler fit in the 90s touring ecosystem</p></li><li><p>23:20: Bobby Sheehan&#8217;s bass work becomes the center of the discussion</p></li><li><p>30:10: Why &#8220;Sweet Pain&#8221; and the slower songs reveal a different side of John Popper</p></li><li><p>36:59: The trouble with limited dynamics, busy arrangements, and buried hooks</p></li><li><p>44:07: &#8220;Mountain Cry,&#8221; Gregg Allman, Southern-rock grit, and the record&#8217;s biggest swing</p></li><li><p>50:29: Patrick&#8217;s H.O.R.D.E. Festival memories, including a remarkable side-stage jam</p></li><li><p>1:06:50: Final ratings, favorite tracks, and the case for an EP-length version of the album</p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[New albums from The Mountain Goats, Shearwater, The Durutti Column, and Trashcan Sinatras, plus a 4CD Cherry Red shoegaze archive.]]></title><description><![CDATA[Plus the Billy Joel proto-metal record that time forgot, Blues Traveler on deck, and Darren Leach just dropped The Wipers&#8217; Is This Real? into the Hopper.]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/new-albums-from-the-mountain-goats</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/new-albums-from-the-mountain-goats</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2026 16:27:16 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/163d6242-71a7-45e1-b79c-07430732e211_1536x1024.png" length="0" 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Minneci&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:10831644,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6b2d2047-83fd-4cd5-8d13-47929d4bc952_400x400.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;411ef3de-a966-4447-ab6d-556b144be1b3&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>, and <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Chip Midnight&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:7555066,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c665bfaa-f76b-4922-aa16-a340a38f3dfa_3945x2959.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;a5efc58d-e6c6-42f6-a1e1-26efc89bcf61&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>, August 4, 2026</p><p>Before &#8220;Piano Man,&#8221; before &#8220;Uptown Girl,&#8221; before he was even Billy Joel, there was Attila. A two-man Hammond-organ-and-drums duo turning out prehistoric proto-metal on Long Island in 1970. The album is 59 minutes and 59 seconds of a young songwriter trying to sound like Iron Butterfly and mostly succeeding. We spent the episode on the specific chaos of the record he&#8217;d rather you never heard.</p><p><a href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/archive">Listen to the episode</a></p><div><hr></div><p><strong>Know a lost or forgotten album that deserves the spotlight? <a href="https://airtable.com/app356TrsQzwKOddY/pagITslz557viDn90/form">Suggest it for a future episode.</a></strong></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Coming Up Next</strong></h2><h3><strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blues_Traveler">Blues Traveler</a> &#8211; </strong><em><strong>Travelers and Thieves</strong></em><strong> (Tuesday, August 11)</strong></h3><p>John Popper&#8217;s harmonica, Chan Kinchla&#8217;s guitar, and the second Blues Traveler record, the one that turned a New York bar band into an H.O.R.D.E.-tour headliner without any of the songs you&#8217;d hear on the radio yet. <em>Travelers and Thieves</em> (1991) is the one longtime fans defend hardest. This week is a Patron Album Review picked by Patrick Testa from the <a href="http://www.dmounion.com">Board of Directors</a>.</p><p>After that on Aug 18: Tora Tora <em>Surprise Attack</em> (1989) as the next 80s Metal episode.</p><p>Give <em>Travelers and Thieves</em> a spin before Tuesday and come ready with what works and what doesn&#8217;t.</p><p>Want to hand-pick an album for a future episode and join us on the show to dig into it? <a href="https://www.dmounion.com/">Join the Board of Directors at dmounion.com.</a></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>New Releases</strong></h2><h3><strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mountain_Goats">The Mountain Goats</a> &#8211; </strong><em><strong><a href="https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/album/days">Days</a></strong></em></h3><p>Think back to 2005, headphones on, &#8220;This Year&#8221; from <em>The Sunset Tree</em> landing on you like a hand on the shoulder, and John Darnielle becoming the poet laureate of surviving your own life. Twenty-plus records later, he still writes like the guy who could not shut up about the specifics. <em>Days</em> is out August 7 on his Cadmean Dawn imprint, arriving less than a year after their last, and it started as a <em>Goths</em> sequel (working title: <em>Grunges</em>) before becoming a broader meditation on 90s nostalgia and mortality with songs literally titled &#8220;Song for Layne Staley&#8221; and &#8220;Charlie Sheen Reaches Out to the Feds.&#8221;</p><p><strong>What works:</strong> <a href="https://www.stilllisteningmag.com/reviews/the-mountain-goats-days">Still Listening Magazine</a> frames the tonal move directly: &#8220;<em>Days&#8217;</em> music is deceptively chipper, content to rage against the dying light in a gentler fashion.&#8221; New wave synths, country-tinged harp from Mikaela Davis, and Darnielle finding grace in every wounded weirdo he writes about.</p><p><strong>What doesn&#8217;t:</strong> Fans on <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/themountaingoats">r/themountaingoats</a> split on the execution, with a vocal contingent finding some lyrics &#8220;really corny&#8221; and the rhyme schemes too simple for the conceptual ambition. Even Darnielle&#8217;s most devoted apologists concede that at 27 albums deep, the batting average has to slip somewhere.</p><div><hr></div><h3><strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shearwater_(band)">Shearwater</a> &#8211; </strong><em><strong><a href="https://shearwater.bandcamp.com/album/the-new-world-2026">The New World</a></strong></em></h3><p>Cast your mind back to 2008, <em>Rook</em> on repeat, Jonathan Meiburg&#8217;s strained tenor pushing against instrumental thickets that sounded like Talk Talk had gotten a job on a research vessel. Meiburg is a working ornithologist as much as he&#8217;s a bandleader, and Shearwater have been quietly making cerebral, nature-infused art rock as an Okkervil River spinoff since the late 90s. <em>The New World</em> is out July 31, self-released and crowdfunded, recorded across four years in London, Berlin, Brooklyn, and Texas with members of Malian group Ngoni Ba, Shahzad Ismaily, and Laurie Anderson on the closing track.</p><p><strong>What works:</strong> <a href="https://www.uncut.co.uk/reviews/shearwater-the-new-world-review">Uncut</a> gave it 9/10 and praised how it &#8220;throngs with nature imagery&#8221; while tackling truth and misinformation. A Bandcamp fan quoted on the release page called it &#8220;the band&#8217;s best to date, its songs ring with clarity, urgency and depth.&#8221;</p><p><strong>What doesn&#8217;t:</strong> <a href="https://www.uncut.co.uk/reviews/shearwater-the-new-world-review">The same Uncut review</a> frames the cost of admission: this is expansive but focused music with Thom Yorke-adjacent vocals, and the lack of obvious hooks means it&#8217;s not background music. If you&#8217;re not willing to sit down with it, the record will slide past you.</p><div><hr></div><h3><strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Durutti_Column">The Durutti Column</a> &#8211; </strong><em><strong><a href="https://thedurutticolumn.bandcamp.com/album/renascent">Renascent</a></strong></em></h3><p>Picture Manchester in 1980, Factory Records catalog number FAC 14, Vini Reilly&#8217;s guitar sounding like the most quietly emotional instrument on any label in Britain. The Durutti Column were always Joy Division&#8217;s spiritual counterweight on Factory, and Reilly&#8217;s intricate, nylon-string fingerwork influenced everyone from Johnny Marr to Bradford Cox. <em>Renascent</em> is his first studio album in 16 years, out July 31 on London Records. Reilly suffered multiple strokes that left him unable to play guitar and financially vulnerable. Longtime collaborators Bruce Mitchell and Keir Stewart assembled the record patiently over a decade, recording Reilly in his kitchen from a van outside during the pandemic.</p><p><strong>What works:</strong> <a href="https://silentradio.co.uk/durutti-column-renascent-review">Silent Radio</a> lands the verdict without qualification: &#8220;Surely a record that will be remembered as one of the greatest comeback albums of the 21st century.&#8221; Reilly&#8217;s &#8220;intricate, instinctive melodies and bold, fluid fingerwork&#8221; remain intact.</p><p><strong>What doesn&#8217;t:</strong> <a href="https://nomoreworkhorse.com/durutti-column-renascent-review">No More Workhorse</a> notes not every experiment lands: Reilly&#8217;s spoken-word vocals on &#8220;Liars&#8221; create &#8220;a strange effect&#8221; with his &#8220;almost rap-style vocal,&#8221; and &#8220;Your Shadow at Evening&#8221; with its drum-dominated approach &#8220;doesn&#8217;t quite resonate.&#8221; A record this hard-won gets a lot of grace, but the honest read is that some tracks work and some don&#8217;t.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>If you want to hand-pick an album for a future episode and join us on the podcast to dig into it, that&#8217;s exactly what the Board of Directors is for. <a href="https://www.dmounion.com/">Join at dmounion.com.</a></strong></p><div><hr></div><h3><strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trashcan_Sinatras">Trashcan Sinatras</a> &#8211; </strong><em><strong><a href="https://trashcansinatras.bandcamp.com/">Ever The Optimist</a></strong></em></h3><p>Remember 1990, &#8220;Obscurity Knocks&#8221; on college radio, the Trashcans announcing themselves as the Scottish band that took jangle-pop&#8217;s melancholy and layered it with the kind of harmony that made you rewind cassettes. Frank Reader&#8217;s voice, John Douglas&#8217;s melodies, and a run of records (<em>Cake</em>, <em>I&#8217;ve Seen Everything</em>, <em>A Happy Pocket</em>) that quietly kept the Aztec Camera flame alive through the Britpop bombast. <em>Ever The Optimist</em> is out July 31, their first proper studio album in about six years, and the title tells you exactly which pole of the Reader-brothers songwriting spectrum they&#8217;re leaning into this time.</p><p><strong>What works:</strong> <a href="https://louderthanwar.com/trashcan-sinatras-ever-the-optimist-review">Louder Than War</a> frames what fans of <em>A Happy Pocket</em> have been waiting for: the record &#8220;leans into the melodic warmth and lyrical care that made them essential in the first place, without pretending three decades haven&#8217;t passed.&#8221;</p><p><strong>What doesn&#8217;t:</strong> <a href="https://louderthanwar.com/trashcan-sinatras-ever-the-optimist-review">The same Louder Than War piece</a> also names the tradeoff: the Trashcans have never once tried to sound like a different band, and this record isn&#8217;t going to convert anyone who hasn&#8217;t already found their way in. If jangle-heavy Scottish sadpop has never been your entry point, <em>Ever The Optimist</em> isn&#8217;t the U-turn.</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Also Out This Week</strong></h2><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoegaze">Various Artists</a> &#8211; <em><a href="https://cherryred.co/we-are-the-beautiful">We Are the Beautiful: Two Decades of Shoegaze 1991-2011</a></em>: Cherry Red&#8217;s 4CD, 67-track compilation covering shoegaze&#8217;s whole arc from 1991 through the second and third waves. <a href="https://www.allmusic.com/album/we-are-the-beautiful">AllMusic&#8217;s Paul Simpson</a> praises how it &#8220;gathers highlights and deep cuts&#8221; with &#8220;plenty of quality material from shoegaze&#8217;s original wave&#8221; that wasn&#8217;t on prior comps. Notable omission: My Bloody Valentine (licensing).</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Darling_Buds">The Darling Buds</a> &#8211; <em><a href="https://thedarlingbuds.bandcamp.com/">Same Sun / Same Sky</a></em>: Andrea Lewis&#8217;s C86-era Welsh alt-pop band&#8217;s first new album in a decade, still riding a jangle-and-fuzz template that was underrated in 1988 and remains underrated now. Out July 31.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starflyer_59">Starflyer 59</a> &#8211; <em><a href="https://starflyer59.bandcamp.com/">Disappointed EP</a></em>: Jason Martin&#8217;s long-running project turns in another compact bulletin from the shoegaze/dream-pop spectrum, released July 31 on Velvet Blue Music.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawberry_Alarm_Clock">Strawberry Alarm Clock</a> &#8211; <em><a href="https://bigstirrecords.bandcamp.com/album/wheres-one">Where&#8217;s One?</a></em>: First album of all-new material in 14 years from the &#8220;Incense and Peppermints&#8221; band, with five of the six original members from their 1967-68 records back in the room. <a href="https://musoscribe.com/strawberry-alarm-clock-wheres-one-review">Bill Kopp at Musoscribe</a> says it might be &#8220;one of my potential picks for the year&#8217;s best.&#8221; Out August 7 on Big Stir.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Morrison">Billy Morrison</a> &#8211; <em>Hollow</em>: The Idol/Cult guitarist&#8217;s second solo record, following 2024&#8217;s <em>The Morrison Project</em>. Out August 7.</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Fresh in the Hopper</strong></h2><p>The queue keeps stacking. Here are the picks worth bookmarking. They&#8217;ll all be appearing in upcoming polls. </p><p><strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wipers">The Wipers</a>, </strong><em><strong>Is This Real?</strong></em><strong> (1980)</strong>, submitted by Darren Leach. His pitch is efficient: &#8220;Because many bands have covered their songs, including Nirvana who covered 2 tracks from this album alone.&#8221; Portland&#8217;s foundational post-punk record, the one Kurt Cobain would name-check for the rest of his life.</p><p><strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Firm_(rock_band)">The Firm</a>, </strong><em><strong>The Firm</strong></em><strong> (1985)</strong>, submitted by Chip. With Led Zeppelin and Bad Company both done, Paul Rodgers and Jimmy Page formed a supergroup with Tony Franklin and Chris Slade. &#8220;Radioactive&#8221; hit number one on Billboard&#8217;s Mainstream Rock chart and the video got MTV airplay. Chip&#8217;s real question: was the rest of the album worth digging up? Guessing yes.</p><p><strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kick_Axe">Kick Axe</a>, </strong><em><strong>Vices</strong></em><strong> (1984)</strong>, submitted by Tony. Rated 10/10 by Martin Popoff, and Tony&#8217;s got a specific defense: &#8220;&#8217;Heavy Metal Shuffle&#8217; should have been HUGE.&#8221; Canadian melodic metal that lived just under the surface of the 80s hard-rock explosion.</p><p><strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handsome_(band)">Handsome</a>, </strong><em><strong>Handsome</strong></em><strong> (1997)</strong>, submitted by Darren Leeman. Post-Helmet supergroup with members of Cro-Mags and Quicksand, an album that Darren describes as &#8220;tight, melodic and punchy,&#8221; the connective tissue between alt-metal and the post-hardcore explosion.</p><p>Got a lost or forgotten album that deserves the spotlight? <a href="https://airtable.com/app356TrsQzwKOddY/pagITslz557viDn90/form">Drop it in the Hopper.</a></p><div><hr></div><p>What are you reaching for first this week? Darnielle&#8217;s 27th, Meiburg&#8217;s four-year globe-trotter, Vini Reilly finally recording again, or the Trashcans doing the thing only the Trashcans do?</p><p>Hit the comments and let me know. And if this roundup saved you some time, consider subscribing to support the mission.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div><hr></div><p>Join the Board of Directors at <a href="https://www.dmounion.com/">dmounion.com</a></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The 1970 Billy Joel Metal Album That Time Forgot ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Attila turns a Hammond organ into a proto metal wrecking ball]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/the-1970-billy-joel-metal-album-that</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/the-1970-billy-joel-metal-album-that</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 13:36:23 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/209718848/fb2e8ef5278e45ca2c87142cc599d5a7.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Our latest 70s metal ballot took a hard left turn into lore, with the community pulling us toward a proto metal curiosity hiding in Billy Joel&#8217;s past: the lone self titled album by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attila_(rock_band)">Attila</a>, his short lived duo with drummer <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Small">Jon Small</a>.</em> <em>Voted in over 1970s picks from <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_%C3%96yster_Cult">Blue &#214;yster Cult</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Springfield">Rick Springfield</a>, this record asks a simple question: what happens when a future piano man tries to out heavy <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Purple">Deep Purple</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath">Black Sabbath</a>?</em> <em>Want to bring YOUR favorite lost album to the table? <a href="https://airtable.com/app356TrsQzwKOddY/pagITslz557viDn90/form">Suggest it for a future episode</a>.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MLAM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7bf5194-a011-4b2a-88aa-f8842e95bb32_599x589.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>Heavy metal in the meat locker</strong></h3><p>The Attila story starts in the New York club circuit of the late 1960s, where Billy Joel and Jon Small cut their teeth in Long Island band <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hassles">The Hassles</a> before deciding to strip things down, turn the amps up, and chase the emerging heavy rock wave. By 1969 they had walked away from their psych rock outfit, signed with <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_Records">Epic Records</a>, and cut a duo album that replaced guitar and bass with an overdriven <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammond_organ">Hammond organ</a> fed straight into <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Amplification">Marshall</a> stacks.</p><p>The self titled Attila album landed in July 1970, right as Sabbath, Zep, and Purple were defining what &#8220;heavy&#8221; meant to rock audiences. On paper it looked like a novelty, with a now notorious meat locker cover showing Joel and Small posing among hanging sides of beef, equal parts barbarian cosplay and bargain bin oddity. Inside, though, is a sincere attempt to match the volume and aggression of British heavy rock with nothing but organ, drums, and a 21 year old singer pulling every Robert Plant inspired scream his lungs will allow.</p><p>That context matters because it explains both the ambition and the backlash. Stephen Thomas Erlewine famously called Attila &#8220;undoubtedly the worst album released in the history of rock and roll,&#8221; while other writers have heard it as a chaotic joke that Joel himself never quite got. We came in knowing the reputation, but once we sat with the record, the story felt less like a punchline and more like a strange, almost alternate timeline for one of rock&#8217;s most conservative songwriters.</p><h3><strong>Organ instead of guitars</strong></h3><p>The first thing that hits you on Attila is not the songs, it is the sound. Joel is handling lead lines, riffs, bass, and chords on that single Hammond, all run into Marshall amplification that gives the entire record a fuzzed out, almost guitar like grind. On opener &#8220;Wonder Woman&#8221; and &#8220;California Flash,&#8221; the organ tone sits somewhere between <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Purple">Deep Purple&#8217;s</a> Mark I era and a grittier club band, with the left hand pumping out bass figures while the right hand dives into distorted leads that often pass as rhythm guitar on first listen. You can hear how much this solves some of the late 60s recording limitations, because that saturated organ occupies plenty of sonic space without the brittleness that plagued early heavy guitar recordings.</p><p>That approach reaches its most Sabbath like moments on &#8220;Tear This Castle Down,&#8221; where the riffs and bass lines feel like they were written for Tony Iommi and Geezer Butler, only to be re routed through keys instead of strings. The band leans into that heaviness by arranging long, multi part pieces like &#8220;Amplifier Fire (Part I: Godzilla / Part II: March Of The Huns),&#8221; which rides an almost proto doom stomp before morphing into jammy, martial sections that show off Joel&#8217;s speed and Small&#8217;s stamina. When the record moves into &#8220;Holy Moses&#8221; and the closing instrumental &#8220;Brain Invasion,&#8221; the organ becomes outright shreddy, with runs that reminded us of later guitar hero records, except every note is coming from manuals and pedals rather than a fretboard.</p><p>Vocally, what stands out is how much power there is relative to other proto metal curios from the same era. We have covered plenty of early 70s heavy bands whose singers struggle to compete with their own rhythm sections, but here the voice cuts through with a full bodied, wailing delivery that feels more aligned with classic British hard rock than the cult obscurity bin. If you go back to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_Spring_Harbor_(album)">Cold Spring Harbor</a> a year later, or even forward to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_Man_(song)">Piano Man</a>, you can hear flashes of the same melodic instincts in lines that pop up for a bar or two in Attila&#8217;s otherwise riff driven songs.</p><h3><strong>Ahead of its time, short on songs</strong></h3><p>For all the sonic fun, Attila is not a secret masterpiece hiding in plain sight, and our conversation kept circling back to the same sticking point. There are almost no actual songs here, at least not in the way we usually talk about hooks and choruses. The record feels performance first, stitching together riffs, rhythmic hits, and extended instrumental passages into eight tracks that often blur into one another if you are not actively counting track changes. &#8220;California Flash&#8221; might be the clearest example of the tension; the chorus tries to lift with a simple ascending melody, but the lyrics are goofy enough that it veers into cringe and undercuts the musical punch.</p><p>That writing gap becomes more striking when you lay this album next to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_Spring_Harbor_(album)">Cold Spring Harbor</a>, which arrived only about fourteen months later with songs like &#8220;She&#8217;s Got a Way&#8221; and &#8220;Everybody Loves You Now.&#8221; One year you have extended Hammond jams about medieval sieges, the next you have compact, emotionally articulate piano ballads and proto singer songwriter material that would eventually lead to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stranger_(album)">The Stranger</a>. It creates this cognitive dissonance where you almost have to assume Attila was partly an attempt to ride a trend, a local band asking &#8220;what if we just did our own Deep Purple and Sabbath hybrid to get out of Long Island.&#8221;</p><p>If you approach Attila expecting fully formed songs, you will probably find yourself lost somewhere in the suite &#8220;Amplifier Fire&#8221; or spacing out during &#8220;Rollin&#8217; Home,&#8221; realizing you cannot remember a chorus or lyric you want to return to. That is where the record works better if you think of it as a concept or jam project that never quite committed to being instrumental, rather than a heavy rock LP aimed at the singles and radio market. We found ourselves agreeing that the best way to appreciate this band is as an EP length experience focused on a handful of standout tracks, with the rest functioning as curiosities and context rather than essentials.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h3><strong>Billy Joel, alternate timeline</strong></h3><p>The human drama around Attila is almost as compelling as the music, and it gives the record a strange, bittersweet weight. Joel and Small not only left their previous band together, they also wound up in a personal triangle when Billy began a relationship with Jon&#8217;s wife, an affair that effectively ended their musical partnership. In interviews, Joel has talked about how badly the Attila era wrecked him, including a failed suicide attempt involving household cleaners and a subsequent period of depression as he watched his early band and record fall apart. That sense of failure hangs over the lore, right down to the story that he once tried to buy and destroy copies of the album from record stores because he hated it so deeply.</p><p>When you remember that he was only around twenty one when Attila came out, the ambition and the emotional volatility make more sense. This is a young player, heavily influenced by the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles">Beatles</a> and British Invasion pop, who somehow ended up fronting a two man heavy rock experiment that cleared most of its audiences out of the room. It is not hard to imagine an alternate universe where Attila tightens up, adds a guitarist, and turns Joel into a full time organ slinger in some American answer to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uriah_Heep_(band)">Uriah Heep</a> or <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitesnake">Whitesnake</a>, rather than the arena piano balladeer we know.</p><p>There is also a fascinating afterlife to Jon Small&#8217;s career. Instead of continuing as a drummer, he moved into video production and eventually worked on Billy Joel&#8217;s live concert films, a surprising reconciliation given the personal history that broke the band in the first place. Meanwhile, the Attila album has been reissued and repackaged in bootleg form over the decades, sometimes even marketed explicitly as a Billy Joel title in territories like Italy and New Zealand, complete with mismatched cover art that has nothing to do with the original meat locker concept. For a record its own creator wishes would disappear, it has an uncanny habit of resurfacing whenever someone wants to tell the story of &#8220;Billy Joel&#8217;s metal band.&#8221;</p><p><strong>Proto metal, retro ears</strong></p><p>Listening in 2026, one of the strangest pleasures of Attila is how modern it can feel if you strip away the reputation and origin story. If you played &#8220;Wonder Woman,&#8221; &#8220;California Flash,&#8221; or &#8220;Revenge Is Sweet&#8221; for a young garage rock or stoner rock fan today and told them it was a new band from Detroit, there is a decent chance they would hear it as a retro cool heavy psych record rather than a historical oddity. The Hammond tone, the raw drum sound, and the loose arrangements sit right next to the aesthetics that bands in the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Man_Records">Third Man Records</a> orbit have been mining for years, from <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dead_Weather">The Dead Weather</a> to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Raconteurs">The Raconteurs</a>.</p><p>That retro compatibility is why we kept drifting into fantasy bookings during the episode. The idea of a band like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu_Manchu_(band)">Fu Manchu</a> slowing &#8220;Wonder Woman&#8221; down into a giant fuzz riff, or Jack White pressing a lovingly remastered Attila reissue for Record Store Day, feels weirdly plausible once you sit with these tracks. Part of the charm is that nobody, to our knowledge, has actually covered these songs, which means the right band could rescue them from novelty status and reframe them as foundational deep cuts in the lineage of heavy organ rock.</p><p>At the same time, you cannot completely detach Attila from the Billy Joel name. The knowledge that this is &#8220;the Piano Man guy&#8221; shapes how critics and fans react, whether that means harsher reviews from rock historians or raised eyebrows from casual listeners who only know &#8220;Uptown Girl.&#8221; We found that the most rewarding way to listen is to consciously bracket the future star and imagine this as a one off by an unknown duo, then go back and catch all the little melodic and harmonic fingerprints that would later show up in his mainstream work.</p><h3><strong>Verdict</strong></h3><p>By the end of the episode, we all landed in roughly the same place: Attila is a fascinating, often thrilling artifact that works best in short doses. There is an EP buried here, anchored by &#8220;Wonder Woman,&#8221; &#8220;California Flash,&#8221; &#8220;Revenge Is Sweet,&#8221; and &#8220;Tear This Castle Down,&#8221; that we would happily spin again and share with friends who love heavy organ and proto metal oddities. Beyond that core, the record starts to feel like a document of a young band overextending itself, stretching ideas into suites and solos that do not have the melodic or lyrical weight to justify their length.</p><p>What makes it worth hearing is not the songwriting so much as the combination of context and execution. This is a 1970 heavy rock album with no guitars, a proto metal document that hints at Sabbath and Deep Purple while sounding like neither, and an early showcase for a keyboard player whose future career would revolve around carefully crafted, radio friendly piano songs. If you are a Billy Joel fan, a 70s metal obsessive, or just someone who loves weird corners of rock history, Attila is one of those records that can rewire how you think about career arcs and genre boundaries.</p><p>We left the conversation with more questions than answers. How different would the rock canon look if this band had made a second, more focused record instead of imploding? What forgotten heavy albums from future adult contemporary stars are still hiding out there? And what would it take for a modern band to adopt Attila&#8217;s organ driven template and push it forward instead of treating it as a punchline? For now, Attila remains a cult curiosity that lives on YouTube and archive rips rather than streaming, and the only way to get our full verdict is to queue up the episode, ride through the meat locker with us, and drop your own take in the comments.</p><h4><strong>Episode Highlights</strong></h4><ul><li><p>01:18: Poll rundown: Blue &#214;yster Cult, Rick Springfield, Attila, Circuit Rider, and who nominated what.</p></li><li><p>02:36: Billy Joel deep dive, from The Hassles to Attila to early bootleg compilations.</p></li><li><p>10:13: Reading the infamous &#8220;worst album in rock history&#8221; review and reactions.</p></li><li><p>17:21: Breaking down the Hammond through Marshall sound and the Sabbath sized weight of &#8220;Tear This Castle Down.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>24:14: Why the first three tracks feel like a legit heavy rock deep cut EP.</p></li><li><p>32:02: The post Attila crash, suicide attempt stories, and the Cold Spring Harbor pivot.</p></li><li><p>53:38: Imagining Attila reissues, stoner rock covers, and a &#8220;before they were famous&#8221; series on other artists.</p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why Did Nobody in America Hear Love Outside Andromeda?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Twenty years later, its mix of folk quiet and garage-rock fury still sounds like nothing else.]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/why-did-nobody-in-america-hear-love</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/why-did-nobody-in-america-hear-love</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 14:32:33 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/208833586/a48d2e83e72083794ed38b94c335a3f2.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Gavin Reid, one of our longest-running Discord regulars, brought this one to the table, a debut he&#8217;d been chasing us to hear since it first crossed his radio dial in Melbourne back in 2003. He&#8217;s suggested several records that never made it past Australian shores and have been quietly haunting him ever since. Want to bring YOUR favorite lost album to the table? <a href="https://airtable.com/app356TrsQzwKOddY/pagITslz557viDn90/form">Suggest it for a future episode or community poll.</a></em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Ix6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68761134-cd9c-4bd5-b160-42588497cd29_640x640.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Ix6!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68761134-cd9c-4bd5-b160-42588497cd29_640x640.jpeg 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Love Outside Andromeda formed in Melbourne in 2000, and their name is basically a legal workaround. There was already a Swedish band called Andromeda operating in the same era, so the group settled on the fuller title to sidestep any confusion. Fronted by singer and guitarist Sianna Lee alongside guitarist Jamie Slocombe, bassist Jesse Lee, and drummer Joe Hammond, with cellist Alistair Watts contributing to the record, the band spent the early 2000s building toward this debut through a pair of EPs, &#8220;Umabel&#8221; in 2001 and &#8220;Something White and Sigmund&#8221; in 2003.</p><p>Most first albums sound like a band finding itself in real time. This one does not. The self-titled record, released in September 2004 on Shock Records, plays like a band that already knew exactly what it wanted to be, layered, textured, and unwilling to sit still inside one genre. The songwriting swings from finger-picked, almost folk-adjacent verses into distorted, angsty choruses, and the shift never feels forced, it earns every bit of tension it builds.</p><p>Sianna Lee&#8217;s voice does more work on this record than almost any vocalist we&#8217;ve covered in this genre. It moves from a near-whisper into something closer to classical phrasing, then snaps into full aggression without warning. On &#8220;Gonna Try to Be a Girl,&#8221; she lets her voice crack and squeal at exactly the right moment, a choice that reads as instinct rather than technique. It&#8217;s the kind of performance that makes you wonder why she wasn&#8217;t fronting a much bigger band by 2006.</p><p>The single &#8220;Something White and Sigmund&#8221; cracked number 65 on the Triple J Hottest 100 of 2003, and it&#8217;s the clearest entry point on the record, but the real magic is buried in the arrangement choices most listeners will miss on a first pass. Midway through that song, the band drops into a phased, distant-sounding version of the same vocal line, strips the drums down to cymbals and hi-hat, and lets an organ take over the guitar part before crashing back into the full arrangement. It&#8217;s a shoegaze detour hidden inside a garage rock single, and it barely announces itself.</p><p>The album peaked at number 77 on the ARIA Albums Chart and never received a U.S. release, not even on vinyl. Shock Records had some distribution reach for American artists inside Australia, but that traffic never seemed to run in the other direction for the label&#8217;s homegrown acts. 2004 belonged to bands like Jet, Interpol, and Bloc Party in the garage and post-punk revival lanes, and this band&#8217;s more restrained, dynamic-shifting approach simply didn&#8217;t fit the moment&#8217;s appetite for straightforward hooks.</p><p>Reaction from the Discord and Patreon community skewed almost entirely positive, with virtually nobody willing to say they disliked the record outright. Where the split shows up is in the details. Does the back half&#8217;s run of quieter, more introspective tracks reward patience or dilute momentum? Does a debut this deliberately layered deserve to be judged by the same standard as a band&#8217;s tenth record? We get into all of it, along with our full verdict, on the episode. Listen to the full conversation and drop a comment telling us where you land.</p><h2>Episode Highlights</h2><ul><li><p>00:01:53: Gavin introduces the album and how he discovered it on Melbourne radio</p></li><li><p>00:03:20: The story behind the band&#8217;s name change from &#8220;Andromeda&#8221;</p></li><li><p>00:05:34: The surprisingly NSFW music video for &#8220;Something White and Sigmund&#8221;</p></li><li><p>00:09:18: Jay breaks down the album&#8217;s &#8220;sweet and salty&#8221; dynamic shifts</p></li><li><p>00:16:58: Comparisons to Tool, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, and The Vines</p></li><li><p>00:22:04: Gavin dissects the hidden shoegaze breakdown inside &#8220;Something White and Sigmund&#8221;</p></li><li><p>00:34:03: Discussion of the album&#8217;s sequencing and the &#8220;samey&#8221; back half</p></li><li><p>00:41:40: Final verdicts and the Patreon poll results</p></li><li><p>00:52:08: Gavin&#8217;s history of bringing non-Australian and Australian picks to the show</p></li></ul><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Upgrade&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">This post has bonus content for paid subscribers. Upgrade to get full access.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Upgrade"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[A Sub Pop Cash-Grab vs. the Metal Album That Broke Billboard History]]></title><description><![CDATA[Green River split into Mudhoney and Pearl Jam, 12 Rods dropped a criminally overlooked debut, Josh Rouse channeled a Nebraska winter, and Skid Row became the first metal album to debut at #1]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/a-sub-pop-cash-grab-vs-the-metal</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/a-sub-pop-cash-grab-vs-the-metal</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 16:14:05 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lrbZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F812eaf7e-9f22-40b3-9262-8af7c84acad9_1254x1254.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pop culture remembers the 90s as one word: grunge. If you actually lived through it, you know that&#8217;s the lazy version of the story &#8212; the real decade was messier, weirder, and a lot more interesting than the flannel montage lets on.</p><p>This ballot is proof of that nuance in four records: a Sub Pop cash-grab that accidentally became a Rosetta Stone for two of the decade&#8217;s biggest bands, a criminally slept-on debut, a Springsteen-adjacent slow-burner, and a hard rock record that refused to soften up even after the power ballads took over radio. None of these fit the flannel-and-feedback caricature, and that&#8217;s the point.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lrbZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F812eaf7e-9f22-40b3-9262-8af7c84acad9_1254x1254.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lrbZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F812eaf7e-9f22-40b3-9262-8af7c84acad9_1254x1254.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lrbZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F812eaf7e-9f22-40b3-9262-8af7c84acad9_1254x1254.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lrbZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F812eaf7e-9f22-40b3-9262-8af7c84acad9_1254x1254.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lrbZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F812eaf7e-9f22-40b3-9262-8af7c84acad9_1254x1254.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lrbZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F812eaf7e-9f22-40b3-9262-8af7c84acad9_1254x1254.png" width="1254" height="1254" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/812eaf7e-9f22-40b3-9262-8af7c84acad9_1254x1254.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1254,&quot;width&quot;:1254,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:2501858,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/i/208570873?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F812eaf7e-9f22-40b3-9262-8af7c84acad9_1254x1254.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lrbZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F812eaf7e-9f22-40b3-9262-8af7c84acad9_1254x1254.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lrbZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F812eaf7e-9f22-40b3-9262-8af7c84acad9_1254x1254.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lrbZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F812eaf7e-9f22-40b3-9262-8af7c84acad9_1254x1254.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lrbZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F812eaf7e-9f22-40b3-9262-8af7c84acad9_1254x1254.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h2>The nominees</h2><p><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/Szzk9WeMu-U?si=GNfZLzcHcAj2Dzl9">Green River &#8212; Dry as a Bone/Rehab Doll</a>:</strong> Sub Pop bundled Green River&#8217;s two releases onto one 1990 LP to ride the grunge wave, and now you get to dig into the DNA that later split into Mudhoney&#8217;s noise and Pearl Jam&#8217;s arena-scale ache (submitted by Keith P Miller).</p><p><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/eZCyqLM4LWE?si=9eiOID_F99ru3-Sx">12 Rods &#8212; Split Personalities</a>:</strong> A debut stacked with keyboard and guitar melodies that never got its due (submitted by Daron Faught).</p><p><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/x3PwwVS-ir0?si=NsaTZNWQ5aPC2p09">Josh Rouse &#8212; Dressed Up Like Nebraska</a>:</strong> If anyone other than Springsteen captured the bleakness of a Nebraska winter on record, this might be it (submitted by Keith Badje).</p><p><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/8CFg9f7_Bx0?si=aGU0nByH-PnYWVv_">Skid Row &#8212; Slave to the Grind</a>:</strong> Ass-kicking hard rock that barely blinked for a power ballad, fronted by one of the era&#8217;s genuine all-time vocalists in Sebastian Bach (submitted by Jake Miller).</p><div class="poll-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:863148}" data-component-name="PollToDOM"></div><p>The ballot&#8217;s public, but the vote isn&#8217;t &#8212; only paid members on Patreon and Substack get to pick the winner. Free readers get to watch this fight happen; members get to decide how it ends.</p><h2>What happens next</h2><p>Whichever record takes it becomes a full podcast episode and Substack deep-dive, complete with the poll recap, member comments read on air, band history, our ratings, and yours.</p><p>If you want a say in whether Green River&#8217;s messy grunge blueprint beats a Sebastian Bach power move, this is the line between watching and deciding. Cast your vote, then drop a comment: which album on this ballot got robbed?</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Yngwie J. Malmsteen's Rising Force Turns 41: Why It Still Matters]]></title><description><![CDATA[The record that turned neoclassical shred into an actual genre in 1984.]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/yngwie-j-malmsteens-rising-force</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/yngwie-j-malmsteens-rising-force</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2026 14:09:04 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/207912293/8270ef555bb896b3a25f4634005ed39b.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Upgrade&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">The tangents. The arguments. The chatter that never makes the cut. It&#8217;s all in the raw video, paid members only. Watch it here.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Upgrade"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><em>Jeremy Amend has been picking 90s deep cuts for us for years. This time he crossed the aisle into 80s metal and brought Yngwie J. Malmsteen&#8217;s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising_Force">Rising Force</a>, the record that turned neoclassical shred from a rumor into a genre. It is the album that made &#8220;guitar virtuoso&#8221; a viable solo career, not a backup gig. Want to bring YOUR favorite lost album to the table? <a href="https://airtable.com/app356TrsQzwKOddY/pagITslz557viDn90/form">Suggest it for a future episode or community poll at</a></em></p><p>Why did a nineteen year old singer end up fronting a guitarist who barely wanted him there?</p><h3><strong>A Swede Named Lars Who Became Yngwie</strong></h3><p>The man behind Rising Force was not born Yngwie Malmsteen. He entered the world in Stockholm in 1963 as Lars Johan Yngwie Lannerb&#228;ck, and only started using his maternal grandmother&#8217;s maiden name, Malmsteen, after his mother reverted to it. By the time he recorded this debut, he had already logged time in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steeler_(band)">Steeler</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcatrazz">Alcatraz</a>, restless stints where he was, in essence, a hired gun waiting to become the boss. Rising Force is the sound of him finally getting the whole show to himself, no band name out front, just his own name and a mostly instrumental record built entirely on his terms.</p><h3><strong>Neoclassical Shred, Before It Had a Name</strong></h3><p>This album is credited with crystallizing neoclassical metal into an actual movement rather than a scattered influence. Guitarists like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritchie_Blackmore">Ritchie Blackmore</a> and Uli Jon Roth had flirted with classical phrasing in the 70s, but Rising Force is where that idea became a concrete genre, one built on scales, arpeggios, and structure borrowed straight from Bach and Vivaldi rather than blues. It effectively split 80s guitar playing into two camps, the Eddie Van Halen school and the Yngwie Malmsteen school, occupying opposite ends of a spectrum that most metal guitarists since have had to define themselves against. That fork in the road opened the door for the entire <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrapnel_Records">Shrapnel Records</a> roster and eventually launched players like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani into wider recognition.</p><h3><strong>The Nineteen Year Old Voice on the Record</strong></h3><p>The two vocal tracks on the album feature <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Scott_Soto">Jeff Scott Soto</a>, who was around nineteen at the time and went on to a genuinely wild resume: a short run with <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_(band)">Journey</a>, sessions for <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lita_Ford">Lita Ford</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stryper">Stryper</a>, and vocals for the fictional band Steel Dragon in the film Rockstar. Soto returns for the 1985 follow-up, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marching_Out">Marching Out</a>, and by most accounts the band figured out how to actually build songs around his voice by that second record. Here, the vocals feel closer to an afterthought layered onto guitar-first compositions, which is part of why some longtime fans consider this the purer statement of who Malmsteen actually is as an artist.</p><h3><strong>Restraint, Then Release</strong></h3><p>What sets Rising Force apart from a lot of shred-guitar records is the production. The guitar tone carries far less overdrive than Malmsteen&#8217;s later work, closer to a classic rock or Jimi Hendrix-influenced sound than a typical mid-80s metal record, and the drums have a loose, roomy feel rather than a tight, triggered attack. That restraint matters because it makes the moments where the playing does explode, tracks like &#8220;Black Star&#8221; and &#8220;Evil Eye,&#8221; land harder. Rather than following a standard verse-chorus rock structure, songs like the eight-minute &#8220;Icarus Dream Suite Op. 4&#8221; move through multiple sections the way a classical suite would, alternating slow acoustic passages, riff-driven sections, and extended solo runs.</p><h3><strong>What Happened After</strong></h3><p>Malmsteen chased the commercial breakthrough that finally arrived on 1988&#8217;s Odyssey, which brought in veteran singer <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Lynn_Turner">Joe Lynn Turner</a> and produced his biggest hit, &#8220;Heaven Tonight.&#8221; Rising Force, by contrast, never got a shot at radio the same way, staying a cult touchstone for guitar-obsessed listeners rather than a commercial entry point. Malmsteen remains an enormous draw in Japan to this day, still performing pieces like &#8220;Icarus Dream Suite&#8221; with full orchestras.</p><h3><strong>The Verdict</strong></h3><p>Community reaction split, some listeners loved the technical proficiency and neoclassical structure, others found the extended instrumental runs self-indulgent or repetitive at points, and there was real disagreement over whether the vocal tracks help or hurt the record. Does an album built almost entirely around one guitarist&#8217;s virtuosity hold up as a front-to-back listen, or does it work better as a handful of standout tracks? Should the vocal songs have been cut entirely, or expanded and given more attention? Is this really the &#8220;purest&#8221; Malmsteen record, or is that just nostalgia talking? We get into all of it, plus where this stacks up against Odyssey and Trilogy, on the full episode. Give it a listen and drop a comment with your own verdict.</p><h3><strong>Episode Highlights</strong></h3><ul><li><p>00:02: Jeremy&#8217;s pick: Yngwie J. Malmsteen&#8217;s Rising Force, why he chose an 80s record after years of 90s picks</p></li><li><p>04:11: The mystery of the &#8220;J&#8221;: Yngwie&#8217;s real birth name and family history</p></li><li><p>06:18: Jeff Scott Soto&#8217;s resume, from Journey to Saigon Kick to Steel Dragon</p></li><li><p>10:03: Community comments from the Metal Union on Jeremy&#8217;s pick</p></li><li><p>11:46: How Jeremy discovered Malmsteen through his brother&#8217;s cassette collection</p></li><li><p>30:14: Is this the first neoclassical guitar solo album in rock history</p></li><li><p>33:54: The Shrapnel Records pipeline and how it launched Vai and Satriani</p></li><li><p>35:38: What doesn&#8217;t work: the vocal tracks and where the playing gets repetitive</p></li><li><p>46:52: Jeremy&#8217;s deep-cut observations on Far Beyond the Sun, Evil Eye, and Icarus Dream Suite</p></li><li><p>52:15: Final ratings and community poll results</p></li></ul><div><hr></div><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;31a868ec-5622-4764-87a6-fdcc567302c2&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;In this episode, we take a deep dive into the revolutionary album \&quot;Trilogy\&quot; with a discussion about the guitar virtuoso Yngwie Malmsteen and his groundbreaking contribution to the neoclassical metal genre. 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A supergroup built from members of Failure and Tool plus future Guns N&#8217; Roses keyboardist Chris Pitman, Replicants took on a tracklist of covers that ranged from Paul McCartney and John Lennon to David Bowie, T. Rex, Gary Numan, and Pink Floyd. It was resubmitted to our April poll after losing once before, then finally won, so we dove in to figure out whether this cult favorite is a worthy 90s artifact or just candy for Failure obsessives. <em>Want to bring YOUR favorite lost album to the table? <strong><a href="https://airtable.com/app356TrsQzwKOddY/pagITslz557viDn90/form">Suggest it for a future episode or community poll.</a></strong> </em></p><p>Replicants sound like a bootleg transmission from the 90s alternative multiverse. A Cars single, a Wings hit, a T. Rex deep cut, and a Pink Floyd obscurity all get dragged through the same dense, space-rock filter that Failure perfected on <em>Fantastic Planet</em>. The result is a record that feels less like a casual covers project and more like a glimpse into a path the members never had time to fully explore.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!puIr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43ecb7a8-6803-4d38-9a00-d87b24c23101_1536x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!puIr!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43ecb7a8-6803-4d38-9a00-d87b24c23101_1536x1024.png 424w, 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool">Tool</a>, and Chris Pitman, a player who would go on to work with <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns_N%27_Roses">Guns N&#8217; Roses</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blinker_the_Star">Blinker the Star</a>, and the psychedelic project <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusk_(band)">Lusk</a>. The plan, at least at first, was to be an original band, a fun outlet outside the high-pressure worlds of <em>Fantastic Planet</em> and <em>Undertow</em>. The original material never quite came together, schedules got chaotic, so the group pivoted to something they could do quickly and enjoyably: a covers album built from songs they already loved.</p><p>Released in November 1995 on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoo_Entertainment">Zoo Entertainment</a>, the label that also handled Failure, Tool, Matthew Sweet, and Green Jell&#255;, <em>Replicants</em> arrived in the middle of peak 90s alt-rock saturation. The band name itself nods to <em>Blade Runner</em>; replicants are the artificial humans Harrison Ford&#8217;s character hunts, and there is a certain sci&#8209;fi chill in how this record reanimates classic songs inside a more mechanized, spacey frame.</p><p>On paper it looked like a cult hit waiting to happen: members from rising critical darlings, a tracklist that threaded classic rock radio, glam, and synth pop, plus a guest appearance by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maynard_James_Keenan">Maynard James Keenan</a> singing &#8220;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silly_Love_Songs">Silly Love Songs</a>.&#8221; In reality, it came out, got some college radio love, spawned a &#8220;Destination Unknown&#8221; video, then quietly went out of print and never returned to streaming, likely due to the licensing mess of eleven different songwriters and publishers.</p><h3><strong>A covers album built like a Failure record</strong></h3><p>If you are a Failure fan, this record is immediate comfort food. The guitars have that thick, controlled crunch, the dynamics swell and collapse in familiar ways, and Ken Andrews&#8217; voice sits right in the same dry, intimate pocket as it does on <em>Fantastic Planet</em>. The twist, and the reason this album is interesting at all, is that he is forced to inhabit melodies and phrasings he would never have written, which pulls the whole band into new shapes.</p><p>&#8220;Dirty Work,&#8221; originally by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Work_(Steely_Dan_song)">Steely Dan</a>, is a good early example. The original has a breezy, almost cheery feel that hides its lyric about being used; here, the band leans into more melancholy guitar voicings and a heavier rhythmic pulse, though the vocal melody stays close enough that you still feel the song&#8217;s soft-rock DNA. It is not a radical reinvention, but it does feel like a Failure song cosplaying as Steely Dan, slightly sadder and more resigned.</p><p>The glam detours are where the project gets more interesting. &#8220;Life&#8217;s a Gas,&#8221; a lesser-known T. Rex tune from <em>Electric Warrior</em>, slows into a patient, textured space where the band&#8217;s love of syncopated picking, layered guitars, and ambient swells fits naturally. &#8220;The Bewlay Brothers,&#8221; a deep cut from <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bowie">David Bowie</a>&#8217;s <em>Hunky Dory</em>, becomes the most ambitious piece here, stretching out past seven minutes and building strings, horns, and atmosphere into something that feels only half like a Bowie cover and half like a new entry in Failure&#8217;s catalog.</p><p>You can hear Chris Pitman&#8217;s presence most clearly on the synth-forward tracks. &#8220;How Do You Sleep?,&#8221; John Lennon&#8217;s famously venomous answer to Paul McCartney, morphs into a Depeche Mode&#8209;adjacent synth piece with a dry, close-miked drum and bass section late in the song that feels like something off <em>Off the Wall</em> in terms of tone and tightness. &#8220;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Are_%27Friends%27_Electric%3F">Are &#8216;Friends&#8217; Electric?</a>,&#8221; originally by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubeway_Army">Tubeway Army</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Numan">Gary Numan</a>, lands almost too close to its 1979 blueprint, but it does underline how comfortably the Failure sound could have lived in late&#8209;70s synth pop.</p><p>The emotional center, though, is &#8220;Silly Love Songs.&#8221; Written by McCartney as a response to Lennon&#8217;s digs on &#8220;How Do You Sleep?,&#8221; it becomes something darker and more threatening in Replicants&#8217; hands, especially when Maynard&#8217;s voice slides in. Parts of the arrangement feel like a horror movie trailer version of Wings, with the &#8220;I love you&#8221; section slowed and stretched until it feels menacing instead of goofy. It is a reminder of how easily affectionate pop can be turned into something unnerving with just a change in tempo, tone, and harmony.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tzeo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1552bfc8-277e-47a7-9dc9-f0c27c0cae22_348x349.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tzeo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1552bfc8-277e-47a7-9dc9-f0c27c0cae22_348x349.jpeg 424w, 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On <em>Replicants</em>, that tension is baked into almost every track, and it sometimes works against the record.</p><p>&#8220;Cinnamon Girl,&#8221; from Neil Young&#8217;s <em>Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere</em>, is the clearest miss for us. The band nails a modernized version of Young&#8217;s metallic, crude guitar tone while filtering it through Failure&#8217;s more processed sound, but the arrangement hugs the original so tightly that it raises the recurring question: why listen to this instead of going back to Neil. The added handclaps in the chorus give it a surprisingly cheery feel that fights against the heaviness of the riff, and nothing in the vocal or harmony choices reframes the song.</p><p>&#8220;Destination Unknown,&#8221; a Missing Persons single, was reportedly picked as the radio track and got an actual video. Hearing it now, that choice feels like a label move; the Replicants version leans into drum machines and a Nine Inch Nails&#8209;style groove in a way that sands off the organic drum feel that makes Failure&#8217;s own catalog so alive. It is easy to imagine someone at Zoo thinking they were getting their own &#8220;Closer&#8221; moment in 1995, but to our ears it ends up sounding like a slightly cheap NIN cosplay.</p><p>On the other end of the spectrum you have &#8220;Just What I Needed,&#8221; the Cars classic that opens the album. The band famously tweak the chord under the iconic keyboard melody, introducing a darker, diminished feel that can be genuinely jarring the first time you hear it. Once you know it is coming, that wrong&#8209;footed chord becomes a feature rather than a bug, but it is a good example of how this record can oscillate between &#8220;clever reinvention&#8221; and &#8220;mildly irritating sabotage&#8221; depending on how much reverence you have for the original.</p><p>This tension runs through &#8220;Are &#8216;Friends&#8217; Electric?&#8221; and &#8220;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibiza_Bar">Ibiza Bar</a>&#8221; as well, the latter a deep cut from <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Floyd">Pink Floyd</a> that already lived in a slow, spacey zone before Replicants got to it. When a band whose whole thing is atmosphere and space covers Pink Floyd, you risk stacking atmosphere on atmosphere without adding insight; the track works as textural album closer, but it does not fully answer the &#8220;why does this version need to exist&#8221; question.</p><h3><strong>Supergroups, side projects, and the weight of expectation</strong></h3><p>Part of the fascination with <em>Replicants</em> is how neatly it fits into the supergroup and side&#8209;project boom. The episode compares it to acts like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audioslave">Audioslave</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velvet_Revolver">Velvet Revolver</a>, where the member lineups promised a lot and the end result felt more &#8220;pretty good&#8221; than mind&#8209;blowing. In hindsight, that might say more about our expectations than the music; it is incredibly hard for any band to live up to the fantasy version of &#8220;Failure plus Tool plus this other guy.&#8221;</p><p>In this context, Replicants make more sense as a pressure valve than as a grand artistic statement. You can hear Ken and Greg experimenting with synths and textures that would later surface in projects like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_(Ken_Andrews_album)">On</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autolux">Autolux</a>, and you can imagine a world where Chris Pitman shows up as a live guest with Failure to add keys and atmospherics to a few songs. The record even nudges you to wish Failure leaned harder into these directions now and then, trading some of the guitar density for more off&#8209;kilter synth and organ moments.</p><p>The practical reality, though, is that the album has been hard to hear for years. It is out of print physically and has never hit the major streaming services, which likely comes down to the time, cost, and sheer bureaucracy of clearing eleven covers across multiple labels and estates for a niche side project. The label was willing to roll that dice in 1995, when CD sales and college radio exposure might justify the hassle, but the calculus looks very different now.</p><h3><strong>Candy for Failure fans, a puzzle for everyone else</strong></h3><p>So where does <em>Replicants</em> land in 2026. Inside our little circle, we split between calling it a worthy album and trimming it to an EP. One of us could build an eight-song version that feels strong front to back, built around &#8220;Silly Love Songs,&#8221; &#8220;Life&#8217;s a Gas,&#8221; &#8220;How Do You Sleep?,&#8221; &#8220;No Good Trying,&#8221; &#8220;Dirty Work,&#8221; &#8220;The Bewlay Brothers,&#8221; &#8220;Destination Unknown,&#8221; and &#8220;Are &#8216;Friends&#8217; Electric?.&#8221; Another would cut more aggressively, landing on a six&#8209;song EP where &#8220;The Bewlay Brothers&#8221; and &#8220;Ibiza Bar&#8221; stand out precisely because they were not burned into our brains before this record.</p><p>Outside the Failure ecosystem, the value proposition is murkier. If you are not already tuned to their space&#8209;rock frequency, do these versions help you hear McCartney, Lennon, Young, or Bowie in a new way, or do they just sound like well&#8209;played 90s alt&#8209;rock curios. How much should we expect a covers album to transform its source material before it &#8220;counts&#8221; as its own statement.</p><p>Critic and fan sentiment online tends to frame <em>Replicants</em> as an intriguing footnote, praised for its taste and mood, questioned for its inconsistency. Around our community, some voters called it &#8220;college radio gold&#8221; and held it up as proof of how creative the 90s could be when major labels gave weird side projects a budget. Others found it less compelling than the sum of its parts, especially compared to the core catalogs of Failure and Tool.</p><p>We keep coming back to a few questions that feel worth handing to you:</p><ul><li><p>Which covers here actually change how you hear the original song, and which ones are just alternate skins.</p></li><li><p>Does a covers record by a band like this need to be great to justify its existence, or is &#8220;fun experiment&#8221; enough.</p></li><li><p>If you are a Failure fan, does this make you want them to stretch further into synths and glam textures on future records.</p></li><li><p>And in an era where this album is hard to access, how much does scarcity itself color your perception of its value.</p></li></ul><p>Listen to the full episode for our detailed breakdown, track by track nerding out, and final rating, then drop a comment and tell us which song you think they absolutely nailed and which one they never should have touched.</p><h4><strong>Episode Highlights</strong></h4><ul><li><p>00:18: Poll setup and the April ballot, explaining how <em>Replicants</em> won after losing a previous round and what that says about persistence in our community.</p></li><li><p>05:53: Introducing Replicants as a Tool and Failure side project, breaking down the lineup and how the band came together mid&#8209;<em>Fantastic Planet</em>.</p></li><li><p>11:07: Context on Zoo Entertainment, Maynard James Keenan&#8217;s guest spot on &#8220;Silly Love Songs,&#8221; and the decision to push &#8220;Destination Unknown&#8221; as the single.</p></li><li><p>19:59: Community comments on the poll, from &#8220;Replicants all day&#8221; to doubts about supergroups and cover albums in general.</p></li><li><p>1:41:19: Deep dive on &#8220;Silly Love Songs&#8221; and &#8220;How Do You Sleep?,&#8221; exploring how the band reframes the Lennon&#8211;McCartney feud in a darker, more menacing way.</p></li><li><p>2:02:38: The glam and Pink Floyd moments, discussing &#8220;Life&#8217;s a Gas,&#8221; &#8220;The Bewlay Brothers,&#8221; and &#8220;Ibiza Bar&#8221; as the album&#8217;s most ambitious, space&#8209;rock&#8209;leaning tracks.</p></li><li><p>2:45:22: Final verdicts: album vs EP, who this is actually for, and why it remains out of print and off streaming.</p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Billy Joel Goes Metal, Springfield Rocks Hard, BÖC Gets Weird]]></title><description><![CDATA[This month&#8217;s 70s ballot runs from midnight&#8209;movie riffs to total burnout psych&#8212;your pick becomes the episode.]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/billy-joel-goes-metal-springfield</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/billy-joel-goes-metal-springfield</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2026 16:18:52 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HUvh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2810223-8a01-459e-b949-d075a68c03a8_1254x1254.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 70s weren&#8217;t just Zep riffs and FM staples; they were a decade where classic rock, AOR, metal, and total weirdness were all being invented in real time. This lineup&#8212;pulled straight from the Dig Me Out community nominations&#8212;hits four different fault lines in that story, with their own words helping set the scene:</p><ul><li><p>A big&#8209;league hard rock band right before the 80s kicked the doors in.</p></li><li><p>A &#8220;wait, the Jessie&#8217;s Girl dude did this first?&#8221; revelation.</p></li><li><p>A burnout psych artifact that sounds like it shouldn&#8217;t exist.</p></li><li><p>And Billy Joel, fronting what basically feels like a deli metal band.</p></li></ul><p>The winning album becomes a full Dig Me Out episode and Substack feature: band history, track&#8209;by&#8209;track, host ratings, and a community score built from your ratings. We&#8217;ll pull comments into the episode and post, so if you want your defense of <em>Spectres</em> or your rant about <em>Attila</em> on the record, this is your shot.</p><p>Got a different 70s album you&#8217;re dying to see on a future ballot? <strong><a href="https://airtable.com/app356TrsQzwKOddY/pagITslz557viDn90/form">Drop an album in the hopper</a></strong> and we&#8217;ll keep pulling these lineups from your nominations.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HUvh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2810223-8a01-459e-b949-d075a68c03a8_1254x1254.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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with softer moments and songs that basically herald the coming 80s AOR and pop&#8209;metal sounds, right alongside the campy horror rock that later bands like The Misfits, White Zombie, and Metallica would echo. If you want us in that midnight&#8209;movie zone where riffs, hooks, and horror all blur together, this is your pick.</p><p>Start here: &#8220;Godzilla&#8221; and &#8220;I Love the Night&#8221; on the album stream.</p><div><hr></div><h3><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVfbLak94DLO0d1H7QrpQULj5VRrmRlZo">Rick Springfield &#8211; </a></strong><em><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVfbLak94DLO0d1H7QrpQULj5VRrmRlZo">Wait for Night</a></strong></em><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVfbLak94DLO0d1H7QrpQULj5VRrmRlZo"> (1976)</a> </strong></h3><h4><strong>nominated by Scott Halgrim</strong></h4><p>Scott&#8217;s pitch starts with a twist: <em>Working Class Dog</em>&#8212;you know, the one with &#8220;Jessie&#8217;s Girl&#8221;&#8212;was actually Springfield&#8217;s fifth (or sixth or seventh, depending how you count) album. <em>Wait for Night</em>is the &#8220;would you believe it&#8217;s frickin&#8217; amazing?&#8221; pre&#8209;history, an album he argues stands as an equal with the big three career&#8209;defining records that came next. If you&#8217;ve written Springfield off as a singles guy, this is the one that might convert you.</p><p>Start here: Drop into the full playlist and see how many choruses lodge in your brain.</p><div><hr></div><h3><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7s8PHnCTGI">Attila &#8211; </a></strong><em><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7s8PHnCTGI">Attila</a></strong></em><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7s8PHnCTGI"> (1970)</a> </strong></h3><h4><strong>nominated by john bordeaux</strong></h4><p>&#8220;Billy Joel and his buddy go hard rock.&#8221; That&#8217;s john&#8217;s whole setup, and honestly, what else do you need? <em>Attila</em> is a glorious, infamous wrong turn: all fuzz bass, distorted organ, and proto&#8209;metal swagger from a guy most people only know from &#8220;Piano Man.&#8221; Is it good? Is it terrible? Is it both at once? That&#8217;s exactly why it&#8217;s on this ballot&#8212;it&#8217;s a perfect Dig Me Out &#8220;how did this happen?&#8221; episode candidate.</p><p>Start here: Put on the album, then imagine 70s radio programmers trying to figure out what to do with it.</p><div><hr></div><h3><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ErEtmUO0zo">Circuit Rider &#8211; </a></strong><em><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ErEtmUO0zo">Circuit Rider</a></strong></em><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ErEtmUO0zo"> (1971)</a> </strong></h3><h4><strong>nominated by Marmaduke</strong></h4><p>Marmaduke calls this &#8220;the ultimate burnout biker&#8209;psych masterpiece&#8230; a 40&#8209;minute recipe for a mental breakdown,&#8221; and that&#8217;s not overselling it. <em>Circuit Rider</em> is all haunted vocals, damaged Americana, and desolate guitar, a private&#8209;press artifact so unhinged it&#8217;s sparked the mystery: could this actually be Jim Morrison under another name? If you want us way out on the fringe, this is the pick.</p><p>Start here: Fire up the full album and see how long it takes before you question your life choices&#8212;in a good way.</p><div><hr></div><div class="poll-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:765359}" data-component-name="PollToDOM"></div><div><hr></div><p>If you&#8217;re reading this free and yelling at your screen about which record has to win, this is the moment to  make it happen. Whichever album takes it, that episode will exist because members pushed it to the top&#8212;where are you putting your vot</p><p>And when you&#8217;re done voting, tell us: <strong>which album got your vote and why?</strong></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[1976: The Year Guitar Rock Split In Two ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Boston, Thin Lizzy, Kiss, and the punk records that rewired heavy music.]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/1976-the-year-guitar-rock-split-in</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/1976-the-year-guitar-rock-split-in</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2026 18:15:19 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/205765469/4f7384d8e0315d60e2a2910d1d159a9b.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1976, Boston smuggled a basement-built guitar symphony onto the FM dial and turned it into one of the best&#8209;selling debut albums of all time, while most of the rock world was either going slick, going disco, or quietly burning out. Around it, Kiss, Thin Lizzy, Aerosmith, Judas Priest, and a wave of European deep cuts tried to decide what hard rock should sound like in the second half of the 70s. This week we go back to the bicentennial year, the moment when punk first bared its teeth and arena rock perfected its roar, and ask what 1976 really meant for heavy music. Want to suggest an album for a future episode or community poll? <a href="https://airtable.com/app356TrsQzwKOddY/pagITslz557viDn90/form">Submit it here.</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L1Op!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7a9b54f8-6569-4d7d-a24f-c76bfbc786e0_1672x941.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L1Op!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7a9b54f8-6569-4d7d-a24f-c76bfbc786e0_1672x941.png 424w, 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The Billboard year&#8209;end list is loaded with &#8220;A Fifth of Beethoven,&#8221; &#8220;Disco Lady,&#8221; &#8220;Don&#8217;t Go Breaking My Heart,&#8221; and &#8220;50 Ways to Leave Your Lover,&#8221; while the biggest &#8220;rock&#8221; presence is Queen with &#8220;Bohemian Rhapsody&#8221; and Aerosmith with a revived &#8220;Dream On.&#8221; The charts are soft&#8209;focus and string&#8209;heavy, yet underneath that glossy surface a very different story is playing out in album land: hard rock bands making two records a year, European groups getting heavier and stranger, and a Boston engineer named Tom Scholz quietly building spaceship guitars in his basement.</p><p>Boston&#8217;s debut is the hinge that explains why 1976 feels like a pivot. Recorded largely at Scholz&#8217;s home studio, then released by Epic Records in August, Boston fused classical&#8209;leaning guitar lines, stacked harmonies, and radio&#8209;ready hooks into eight songs that still dominate classic rock playlists. &#8220;More Than a Feeling,&#8221; &#8220;Peace of Mind,&#8221; and &#8220;Foreplay/Long Time&#8221; are precision&#8209;engineered, yet they breathe like a bar band that has been woodshedding for years. When we talk in the episode about albums that are &#8220;jammy but laser&#8209;focused,&#8221; this is the record we mean: long instrumental sections that would get sliced away a decade later, presented here as the whole point.</p><p>At the same time, you can hear how saturated the landscape already is. By 1976, Grand Funk Railroad are on their tenth and eleventh albums, Golden Earring hit their eleventh, Nazareth release albums seven and eight, and the James Gang bow out with their ninth. The classic rock machine is well into its veteran phase. That tension, between bands digging deeper into careers and new sounds trying to crash the party, is what makes 1976 so fun to revisit.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2>Two albums in one year</h2><p>One thing that keeps blowing our minds about 1976 is the output. Thin Lizzy release Jailbreak in March, then end up back in the studio for Johnny the Fox when Phil Lynott&#8217;s hepatitis sidelines touring. The second album is almost an accident, written and recorded when the band cannot go on the road, and made under the cloud of Brian Robertson being fired, rehired, and fired again during the sessions. Yet out of that chaos you still get swaggering hard rock that extends the Jailbreak palette rather than recycling it.</p><p>Kiss push themselves just as hard. In March they release Destroyer with producer Bob Ezrin, all strings, sound effects, and the ballad &#8220;Beth.&#8221; By November they have Rock and Roll Over on the shelves, recorded with Eddie Kramer in a stripped&#8209;down, live&#8209;in&#8209;the&#8209;room style that feels like a reaction to their own bombast. In the span of eight months they go from Broadway&#8209;sized concept rock to raw, four&#8209;on&#8209;the&#8209;floor crunch and still have enough juice left to nearly get Ace Frehley killed when he is shocked on stage in Lakeland, Florida, a near&#8209;electrocution that later inspires &#8220;Shock Me.&#8221;</p><p>Behind them, Nazareth squeeze in Close Enough for Rock &#8217;n&#8217; Roll and Play &#8217;n&#8217; the Game. Wishbone Ash deliver both Locked In and New England. Uriah Heep put out High and Mighty in May and then close the year with Firefly. Even if some of these records feel like transitional entries today, it is wild to remember that in a pre&#8209;MTV world, bands are telling the story of their evolution through two LPs a year, not an album cycle stretched over half a decade.</p><p>That pace explains a lot of what we hear when we listen back. Some albums are tight and focused because the band is on fire. Others sound tired, the riffs running out, the cocaine catching up. Either way, 1976 gives you more snapshots per band than almost any other year.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2>Seeds of metal: Priest, Scorpions, Rainbow, and Rush</h2><p>While Boston and the arena crowd are perfecting melodic rock, something heavier is quietly taking shape. Judas Priest release Sad Wings of Destiny, their second album, and you can hear the template for much of 80s metal starting to click. The twin guitars, the operatic vocal lines, the sense that heaviness can be elegant and structured rather than just a fuzz pedal slammed into the red, all of that starts here.</p><p>Scorpions are already on album four with Virgin Killer, sharpening the European metal edge that will later carry them into arenas. Rainbow move from side project to full statement with Rising and the eight&#8209;minute &#8220;Stargazer,&#8221; a song that feels like Led Zeppelin&#8217;s &#8220;Kashmir&#8221; rewritten as sword&#8209;and&#8209;sorcery opera. You can practically hear power metal being born bar by bar.</p><p>Even Rush are in pivot mode. 2112 arrives in March, a heavy&#8209;prog suite that takes the technicality of British prog and bolts it onto a harder rhythmic engine. If early 70s prog is all about Yes and Gentle Giant, 1976 Rush is already pointing toward a different lineage: intricate, conceptual, but with enough muscle in the riffs that metal bands will claim them as ancestors.</p><p>The strange part is that the original prototypes are struggling just as their ideas spread. Black Sabbath release Technical Ecstasy in October, a creatively restless album that experiments with slicker production, melodic detours, and even a Bill Ward lead vocal while Sabbath&#8217;s influence on other bands starts to lag behind their own name recognition. Ozzy is one album away from leaving, the band is recording in Miami with all the chaos that implies, and you can feel the fatigue in the grooves. 1976 is the weird moment when Sabbath are both the blueprint and already a bit lost, while younger bands interpret their sound in ways they themselves are not.</p><h2>Punks at the gate: Ramones, Sex Pistols, and Blondie</h2><p>Outside the hard rock bubble, 1976 is also the year the punk fuse really gets lit. In April, Ramones drop their debut on Sire Records, a 14&#8209;song, 29&#8209;minute reset button that makes a lot of the mid&#8209;70s rock establishment sound ancient overnight. By October, the Sex Pistols have signed with EMI and released &#8220;Anarchy in the U.K.,&#8221; and The Damned have issued &#8220;New Rose,&#8221; one of the first British punk singles.</p><p>On the edges of that scene, Blondie release their debut, a record that folds girl&#8209;group pop, garage rock, and nascent new wave into something that critics file under &#8220;punk&#8221; simply because they share a scene with Ramones and Television. In the episode, we talk about Blondie as one of those bands who never really stay in one lane, which makes them hard to slot into the &#8220;metal and hard rock&#8221; context, but essential to understanding how 1976 sounds in New York clubs compared to American radio.</p><p>From the other side of the Atlantic, a band like Gasolin&#8217; complicates the picture even more. In Denmark they are massive, selling out arenas and working with Roy Thomas Baker on big, distorted rock records, but because they sing in Danish they barely leave a trace in the US. When they try an English&#8209;language push with What a Lemon, it becomes one more 1976 curiosity rather than a new pillar of the canon. The borders of what &#8220;counts&#8221; as classic rock are already being drawn in language and distribution, not just sound.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2>Deep cuts and private&#8209;press ghosts</h2><p>Beyond the headline acts, one of the joys of doing this episode is the research rabbit hole. We go hunting for the 1976 equivalent of future Bandcamp bands and find a different ecosystem. There is no global indie network yet, but there are private&#8209;press records and regional scenes where bands press a few hundred copies and disappear.</p><p>A Midwest band like Truth and Janey makes a gritty hard rock record, but their story lives in collector circles rather than magazines. Pittsburgh&#8217;s Diamond Reo (not the later country act) and a group like Marcus with Pillow Stars exist at the knife edge where leafing through crates or falling into YouTube holes becomes the only way to find them.</p><p>Then there is Solid Ground&#8217;s Made in Rock, a Swedish private&#8209;press monster where only 200 copies were pressed and 170 destroyed. For decades it is one of those records that sells for several thousand dollars because the original pressing is effectively mythical. Sonically, it sounds more like the future stoner and doom bands than the glossy 1976 mainstream, which is part of why it hits so hard today. In 1976 no one is calling it proto&#8209;stoner rock; it is just another obscure European heavy album. Now it feels like an early blueprint for an entire later scene.</p><p>We also talk about how different European blues&#8209;rock feels compared to American equivalents. Where US bands drift toward slicker, guitar&#8209;hero&#8209;centric records, Scandinavian groups like Solid Ground or Gasolin&#8217; embrace thicker distortion, stranger arrangements, and an almost Sabbath&#8209;via&#8209;Budgie heaviness that does not map neatly onto what was on US radio. That contrast becomes one of the hidden stories of 1976.</p><h2>Boston, presence, and the burnout of giants</h2><p>Looping back to the mainline classics, 1976 is also one of the oddest Led Zeppelin years. Presence arrives in March, a leaner, more anxious record that still contains epics like &#8220;Achilles Last Stand.&#8221; Later in October, the concert film and live album The Song Remains the Same lands, documenting a 1973 version of the band that already feels like a different era. Zeppelin are simultaneously present&#8209;tense and archival, and by 1976 younger bands are less directly copying them than you might expect.</p><p>We hear only a handful of obvious Zeppelin echoes in 1976 records: Rainbow&#8217;s &#8220;Stargazer&#8221; borrowing the rolling grandeur of &#8220;Kashmir,&#8221; parts of UFO&#8217;s &#8220;I&#8217;m a Loser&#8221; evoking the acoustic build of &#8220;Ramble On,&#8221; and a Montrose track where the post&#8209;Sammy Hagar singer shades closer to Robert Plant than feels coincidental. For the most part, 1976 rock bands are pointed at their contemporaries, not their parents. Angel and Starz feel like Kiss satellites. Arena&#8209;ready acts like Heart are moving toward radio single polish, away from their folky roots.</p><p>Against that backdrop, Boston&#8217;s debut almost feels like science fiction. Scholz is using custom&#8209;built gear, carefully controlled overdubs, and classical&#8209;inspired dynamics to make a record that is both heavier than much of the radio rock around it and far cleaner. The fact that it is tracked largely in a small Massachusetts basement and then partially finished in a pro studio gives it this hybrid DNA: basement&#8209;band obsessiveness with big&#8209;studio sheen. That sound becomes a template for power&#8209;pop&#8209;leaning hard rock for years.</p><h2>We want to hear from you:</h2><ul><li><p>If you had to pick one 1976 hard rock or metal album to keep, what is it and why?</p></li><li><p>Do you hear Boston as the birth of a cleaner, more engineered heavy rock, or as the last moment before radio rock gets too slick?</p></li><li><p>Which private&#8209;press or non&#8209;US 1976 records have you discovered that deserve to be in this conversation?</p></li><li><p>Do you remember when punk first made the classic rock bands you loved feel &#8220;old,&#8221; whether in the 70s, 80s, or 90s?</p></li></ul><p>Listen to the full episode for the deep cuts, disagreements, and side quests we could not fit here, then drop your own 1976 pick in the comments so we can keep building this alternate history together.</p><h2>Episode highlights</h2><p>02:30: Billboard Top 10 of 1976, the disco and soft rock snapshot that hides what is happening on albums.</p><p>06:45: Two albums a year, the sprinting schedules of Kiss, Thin Lizzy, Uriah Heep, and more.</p><p>12:10: Thin Lizzy&#8217;s hepatitis detour, how a canceled tour accidentally gives us Johnny the Fox.</p><p>17:30: Counting our own shelves, how many 1976 albums we actually own and still spin.</p><p>24:10: Kiss vs Kiss, the theatrical Destroyer against the raw Rock and Roll Over in the same year.</p><p>29:20: Gasolin&#8217;, Solid Ground, and the strange, heavier sound of 70s Scandinavian rock.</p><p>33:30: Sabbath at a crossroads, Technical Ecstasy and the feeling of a prototype band losing the plot.</p><p>37:40: Zeppelin echoes, where we actually hear the &#8220;Kashmir&#8221; and &#8220;Ramble On&#8221; DNA in lesser&#8209;known 1976 tracks.</p><p>41:50: Boston as a production milestone, why the debut still sounds impossibly clean and big.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[1986: The Year Glam and Thrash Both Peaked at the Same Time]]></title><description><![CDATA[Bon Jovi and Metallica released blueprints in the same calendar year. Neither knew the other existed.]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/1986-the-year-glam-and-thrash-both</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/1986-the-year-glam-and-thrash-both</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 15:07:47 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/204182509/ef5cb1db6d3702049edb582676e86699.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On daytime MTV, Bon Jovi was becoming the biggest pop-rock act on the planet. Poison was setting the blueprint for everything pop culture now calls hair metal. At the same time, Metallica, Slayer, and Megadeth: were building massive and devoted audiences. These two worlds shared MTV, shared tour bills, and shared fans who were being asked to pick a side. That tension is what makes 1986 unlike any other year in metal history.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The Glam Explosion That Broke Daytime MTV</h2><p>Here&#8217;s what happened between 1984 and 1986: metal expanded beyond just being scary.</p><p>After Quiet Riot became the first hard rock band to score a number-one album in 1984, the genre broke into mainstream consciousness. Then the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parents_Music_Resource_Center">PMRC</a> Senate hearings of 1985 gave the music a problem: it needed to stop being threatening. By 1986, the solution was in the videos. Make them colorful. Make them fun. Start somewhere relatable: a bedroom, a garage, a studio. Then escalate into an idealized fantasy of concert performance. Replace leather and skulls with neon and teased hair. What had been relegated to late-night Headbangers Ball slots now fit the 3 PM MTV daypart. The music and the medium found each other.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_When_Wet">Bon Jovi&#8217;s Slippery When Wet</a> is the commercial monument to that shift. Released August 18, 1986, it rolled out singles for nearly a full year after release: &#8220;You Give Love a Bad Name&#8221; in July, &#8220;Livin&#8217; on a Prayer&#8221; in October, &#8220;Wanted Dead or Alive&#8221; the following March, &#8220;Never Say Goodbye&#8221; in June of 1987. Each one was bigger than the last. The year before, Bon Jovi had been opening for Billy Squier. The key differentiator from their earlier work: the arrival of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Child">Desmond Child</a> as co-writer on the two biggest singles, bringing professional hit-making infrastructure to what was already a committed band.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Look_What_the_Cat_Dragged_In_(album)">Poison&#8217;s Look What the Cat Dragged In</a> was doing the same thing with less money. Their starting address was Enigma Records, home to They Might Be Giants, The Cramps, Dead Milkmen, and Devo. An underground punk label, not a hair metal machine. Capitol entered the picture later, which explains why &#8220;Cry Tough&#8221; barely moved and &#8220;Talk Dirty to Me&#8221; became an MTV staple. Poison didn&#8217;t just succeed with this blueprint; they franchised it.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5150_(album)">Van Halen&#8217;s 5150</a> added keyboards and landed the best Sammy Hagar-era album in the process. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eat_%27Em_and_Smile">David Lee Roth&#8217;s Eat &#8216;Em and Smile</a> amplified the campy fun of his Van Halen years into a career highlight. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Songs">Cinderella&#8217;s Night Songs</a> made the sharpest glam debut of the year: darker and more concise than anything they&#8217;d produce later, before the bluesy detours took over. Jon Bon Jovi helped them record it. That&#8217;s how fast the food chain was moving in 1986.</p><h2>The Thrash Revolution Running in Parallel</h2><p>Here&#8217;s the thing about thrash in 1986: it wasn&#8217;t hidden. Headbangers Ball existed. The magazines covered it. Metallica opened for Ozzy on the Ultimate Sin arena tour. But in the daytime MTV ecosystem, thrash was not the default. If you wanted it, you had to find it</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Puppets">Master of Puppets</a> is eight songs long, 54 minutes, and sounded like nothing on daytime MTV or rock radio. It is heavy and precise and expansive in equal measure: a record where the title track alone runs over eight minutes and earns every second. It was Metallica&#8217;s third album, the last one with Cliff Burton, and it was recorded without a single thought given to MTV rotation or radio airplay. No videos. No singles. Just the record, and the word that spread through tape trading, zines, college radio metal shows, and the underground networks that thrash metal relied on before the internet existed.</p><p>What makes 1986 extraordinary is that Metallica wasn&#8217;t alone. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_in_Blood">Slayer&#8217;s Reign in Blood</a> came out the same year: 29 minutes of something faster and more extreme than Master of Puppets, an album that even people who don&#8217;t follow Slayer know by reputation. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_Sells..._but_Who%27s_Buying%3F">Megadeth&#8217;s Peace Sells... But Who&#8217;s Buying?</a> completed what might be the single most concentrated year of output from the Big Four of thrash metal: three of the four bands releasing arguably their best records in a twelve-month span. Anthrax didn&#8217;t have an album in 1986. If they had, it would have been a clean sweep.</p><p>From the German side of the Atlantic, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleasure_to_Kill">Kreator&#8217;s Pleasure to Kill</a> was happening simultaneously: the Teutonic thrash scene developing its own parallel lineage that would eventually be recognized as a pioneer of death and black metal. These weren&#8217;t crossover acts. They weren&#8217;t on MTV. But they were building the foundation that would outlast nearly everything in the charts.</p><p>The thrash revolution of 1986 wasn&#8217;t a secret, but it was a deliberate choice. Headbangers Ball ran late. Daytime belonged to Poison and Bon Jovi. You could be into both, but at school you were expected to pick a jersey. Admitting you preferred Master of Puppets over Slippery When Wet was a statement, and not everyone in 1986 was ready to make it out loud.</p><h2>Legacy Bands: Update or Resist?</h2><p>Every established metal act in 1986 faced the same question: how much do you change?</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_(album)">Judas Priest&#8217;s Turbo</a> is the case study in what too much looks like. Their tenth album added synthesizer guitars and chased the MTV aesthetic in ways that have remained controversial ever since. Some decent songs are buried in there, but Turbo is the canonical example of a decade-spanning band trying on a new identity because the culture demanded it, and not quite threading the needle.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Sin">Ozzy Osbourne&#8217;s The Ultimate Sin</a> represents a different calculation. The image got teased and colorful. The videos fit the 3 PM slot. But the album had Jake E. Lee playing with a flashy intensity that gave it a musical spine the presentation didn&#8217;t undercut. Ozzy reportedly hated it. Others call it his best solo record: a bridge between his 1970s legacy and the glam-era present that actually holds together. When Metallica opened for Ozzy on the Ultimate Sin arena tour, the lineup said everything about where the genre stood. The scariest band in the underground, opening for a legacy act who&#8217;d made himself MTV-friendly. The irony runs deep.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh_Star">Black Sabbath&#8217;s Seventh Star</a> was never supposed to be a Black Sabbath album. Tony Iommi assembled it as a solo project with Glenn Hughes on vocals, Eric Singer on drums, and Dave Spitz on bass. The label insisted the Sabbath name go on it. The video for &#8220;No Stranger to Love&#8221; is keyboard-driven and barely resembles Sabbath because, structurally, it isn&#8217;t. What it is, divorced from its title and backstory, is a genuinely interesting record with a remarkable cast. It has been submitted to multiple DMO polls. It has not yet won. It keeps getting submitted.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somewhere_in_Time">Iron Maiden&#8217;s Somewhere in Time</a> added keyboards lightly and reads today as the last album before the tinkering accelerated. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Countdown_(album)">Europe&#8217;s The Final Countdown</a> produced one of the most inescapable songs of the decade and an album none of us heard past the singles. The legacy-band class of 1986 is full of acts choosing between integrity and relevance. The ones who chose wrong are instructive.</p><h2>The Deep Cuts That Shaped Everything (and Nobody Witnessed)</h2><p>Here&#8217;s the version of 1986 that doesn&#8217;t show up on year-end lists.</p><p>In June of that year, a Swedish doom metal band called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candlemass">Candlemass</a> released their debut album, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicus_Doomicus_Metallicus">Epicus Doomicus Metallicus</a>, on a label called Black Dragon Records. It did not sell. It did not chart. It was not played on the radio or shown on MTV. It was, by most measurable standards, invisible. What it was doing, quietly and without witnesses, was inventing doom metal as a genre. Every band that has worked in that sonic territory for the past forty years carries a Candlemass debt, whether they know it or not.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_%3F!*%40_Like_a_Suicide">Guns N&#8217; Roses&#8217; Live ?!</a><em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_%3F!*%40_Like_a_Suicide">@ Like a Suicide</a></em> is a different kind of deep cut: a 1986 self-released EP on GN&#8217;R&#8217;s own Uzi Suicide label, predating Appetite for Destruction by a full year. Some people had it. They read about the band in Hit Parader and Circus, bought the cassette, and wrote the band&#8217;s name on their textbook covers. Then they came home from college and the cassette was gone, lost in a couch cushion somewhere, probably worth a lot of money now. That cassette is a small but perfect metaphor for 1986: the thing you knew about first, the object you can no longer find.</p><p>The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transformers:_The_Movie_(soundtrack)">Transformers: The Movie soundtrack</a> connects 1986 to something else entirely: the year metal started showing up in animated children&#8217;s films, delivered by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Bush">Stan Bush</a>, Lion, and members of Kick Axe performing as Spectre General. For kids who saw the movie it was a first exposure to the genre. </p><h2>Our Picks, Three Different Arguments</h2><p>Every roundtable eventually comes down to someone having to choose.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Look_What_the_Cat_Dragged_In_(album)">Poison&#8217;s Look What the Cat Dragged In</a>. The blueprint for hair metal as a cultural phenomenon. The DIY machine that started on a punk indie label and franchised itself across the next four years. It is not the deepest record of 1986. But it is the one that most completely captures what the year felt like at 3 PM on a Tuesday when MTV was on. That counts for something.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Puppets">Metallica&#8217;s Master of Puppets</a> is the credibility anchor. The last Cliff Burton record. The document of everything Metallica was before the first video and the commercial pivot. Every move they have made since gets measured against this one, and most of them come up short. The underground case, closed.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Sin">Ozzy Osbourne&#8217;s The Ultimate Sin</a> is the legacy act threading the needle correctly, or at least fascinatingly. Jake E. Lee at full power. Ozzy navigating from his 1970s origin into 1986 accessibility in a way that doesn&#8217;t fully betray either. An album Ozzy reportedly hated. A pick none of us saw coming.</p><p>That&#8217;s 1986.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Episode Highlights</h2><ul><li><p>0:00: Intro. Why we went back to 1986: the year we were all buying cassettes and picking sides.</p></li><li><p>1:52: The Transformers: The Movie soundtrack as a metal gateway. Stan Bush, Lion, and a very upsetting death for 11-year-olds.</p></li><li><p>4:07: Cassette-buying memories. Where we each were, financially and musically, in 1986.</p></li><li><p>8:08: The PMRC timeline and how hair metal broke onto daytime MTV in 1986, colorful videos replacing darker imagery.</p></li><li><p>11:36: Judas Priest&#8217;s Turbo as the prime example of a legacy band adding keyboards and chasing the MTV moment.</p></li><li><p>14:08: 1986 as the greatest single year in thrash metal history. Master of Puppets, Reign in Blood, and Peace Sells all released within months of each other.</p></li><li><p>15:02: Walking into Richfield Coliseum for the last 30 seconds of Metallica opening for Ozzy, and genuinely not caring at the time.</p></li><li><p>16:04: Listening to Master of Puppets in secret on the school bus while claiming to listen to Bon Jovi or Night Ranger.</p></li><li><p>17:28: Why Cinderella&#8217;s Night Songs holds up: darker and tighter than later work, no big ballad epics, Jon Bon Jovi&#8217;s behind-the-scenes role.</p></li><li><p>20:03: Bon Jovi&#8217;s rocket-ship year. The full single timeline from You Give Love a Bad Name through Never Say Goodbye, and Desmond Child&#8217;s co-writing role.</p></li><li><p>22:49: Seeing Poison open for Quiet Riot at the Cleveland Agora reopening. Studying the Look What the Cat Dragged In album cover beforehand. Expecting at least one woman in the band.</p></li><li><p>25:22: Poison&#8217;s DIY punk ethic and their unlikely starting home on Enigma Records alongside They Might Be Giants and The Minutemen.</p></li><li><p>27:56: Candlemass&#8217;s Epicus Doomicus Metallicus: doom metal&#8217;s invisible ground zero, released June 1986, heard by almost nobody.</p></li><li><p>30:07: The Guns N&#8217; Roses Live ?!*@ Like a Suicide EP story. Buying it before anyone knew who they were, writing GN&#8217;R on textbooks, and losing the cassette after college.</p></li><li><p>32:11: Queensryche&#8217;s Rage for Order as a musicians&#8217; landmark, more influential among players than general audiences.</p></li><li><p>34:43: Black Sabbath&#8217;s Seventh Star. The Tony Iommi solo album the label forced into being a Sabbath record, and the DMO poll it keeps losing.</p></li><li><p>37:44: Vinnie Vincent Invasion: Poison taken to its extreme. Pink guitars, pop DNA at maximum volume, and a singer switcheroo from Robert Fleischman to Mark Slaughter.</p></li><li><p>45:08: Buying King Diamond&#8217;s Fatal Portrait out of sheer fear, based only on a magazine photo with no MTV and no internet.</p></li><li><p>52:30: AC/DC&#8217;s Who Made Who: three new songs, six repackaged tracks, Maximum Overdrive tie-in, and the question of whether it needed to be a full album.</p></li><li><p>56:13: The connections bands bucket. Hurricane, London, M.A.R.S., White Tiger, Rough Cutt, Black &#8216;N Blue: albums bought for who was in them, not what was on them.</p></li><li><p>1:03:36: Rough Cutt&#8217;s &#8220;Take a Chance&#8221; as an all-time genre standout hiding inside a mediocre album.</p></li><li><p>1:07:29: We each name the one album that defines 1986. Three picks, no overlap.</p></li><li><p>1:21:07: Chip&#8217;s poll plug for CJSS&#8217;s Praise the Loud. Cincinnati power metal. David T. Chastain. Still waiting for its DMO moment.</p></li><li><p>1:24:07: Outro. </p></li></ul><div><hr></div><p>Have a lost or forgotten album that deserves the spotlight? <a href="https://airtable.com/app356TrsQzwKOddY/pagITslz557viDn90/form">Suggest it here.</a></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[80s Metal, Glam, and Hard Rock Collide: Decide Which Album We Dig Out Next]]></title><description><![CDATA[Master of Puppets, Iron Fist, Slade&#8217;s MTV&#8209;era glam, and Tora Tora&#8217;s late&#8209;80s hard rock all hit the poll. Your vote decides which album gets the deep&#8209;dive.]]></description><link>https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/80s-metal-glam-and-hard-rock-collide</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/p/80s-metal-glam-and-hard-rock-collide</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[J Dziak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2026 15:21:56 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXM6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5b0330a-b497-4e5a-b599-ac17d744b5bc_1254x1254.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All right guys, time to decide which 80s metal record gets the next full Dig Me Out episode. You didn&#8217;t just nominate these albums; now you get to pick the one that moves from the ballot to the main stage.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXM6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5b0330a-b497-4e5a-b599-ac17d744b5bc_1254x1254.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXM6!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5b0330a-b497-4e5a-b599-ac17d744b5bc_1254x1254.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXM6!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5b0330a-b497-4e5a-b599-ac17d744b5bc_1254x1254.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXM6!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5b0330a-b497-4e5a-b599-ac17d744b5bc_1254x1254.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXM6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5b0330a-b497-4e5a-b599-ac17d744b5bc_1254x1254.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXM6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5b0330a-b497-4e5a-b599-ac17d744b5bc_1254x1254.png" width="1254" height="1254" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a5b0330a-b497-4e5a-b599-ac17d744b5bc_1254x1254.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1254,&quot;width&quot;:1254,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:3061964,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/i/203971040?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5b0330a-b497-4e5a-b599-ac17d744b5bc_1254x1254.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXM6!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5b0330a-b497-4e5a-b599-ac17d744b5bc_1254x1254.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXM6!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5b0330a-b497-4e5a-b599-ac17d744b5bc_1254x1254.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXM6!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5b0330a-b497-4e5a-b599-ac17d744b5bc_1254x1254.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXM6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5b0330a-b497-4e5a-b599-ac17d744b5bc_1254x1254.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h2>The Albums</h2><h3><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6LA7v1PApU">Metallica &#8211; Master of Puppets </a></h3><h5>nominated by Keith P. Miller</h5><p>&#8220;Master of Puppets is Metallica&#8217;s best album. Songs about drugs, violence and power played with crushing precision.&#8221; Keith put this one forward, and if it wins, we&#8217;ll go deep on how a band this young made a record that still feels definitive.</p><h3><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6bRGdtcHio">Slade &#8211; Keep Your Hands Off My Power Supply </a></h3><h5>nominated by Chip</h5><p>Chip&#8217;s nomination pulls Slade back into the conversation as more than just source material for Quiet Riot. UK glam survivors trying to make sense of the MTV era, CBS Records, an Ozzy tour invite cut short when the bassist collapsed and was diagnosed with hepatitis&#8212;this ballot slot is all about that alternate history.</p><h3><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLy1F0NPv5gp7kh56RLSH7TDk6h9AV0GB">Tora Tora &#8211; Surprise Attack </a></h3><h5>nominated by Richard Waterman</h5><p>&#8220;Late 80&#8217;s hard rock/metal album that needs diggin&#8217; out.&#8221; Richard nailed the vibe. If you want the podcast to shine a light on a record that never got the legacy&#8209;act treatment, this is the underdog.</p><h3><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0iZjcVNIfY">Mot&#246;rhead &#8211; Iron Fist </a></h3><h5>nominated by Patrick Testa</h5><p>Patrick&#8217;s case is that Iron Fist has been dragged for years because Ace of Spades is untouchable and Lemmy himself knocked it. On the speakers it&#8217;s raw, fast, and live&#8209;room loud, final album from the classic Lemmy/&#8220;Fast&#8221; Eddie/Phil &#8220;Philthy Animal&#8221; lineup. If you&#8217;ve ever thought Iron Fist got a raw deal, this is your chance to put your vote where your opinion is.</p><div class="poll-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:668518}" data-component-name="PollToDOM"></div><h2>Your voting power</h2><p>Here&#8217;s what happens when you vote in this poll:</p><ul><li><p>The winning album becomes the next full Dig Me Out episode and long&#8209;form post</p></li><li><p>We read member comments on air</p></li><li><p>We build a community rating from your scores and include it alongside our own</p></li><li><p>The result becomes part of the Dig Me Out catalogue to be rediscovered by a whole new audience</p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>